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static-harmony 11.04.2006 03:49 PM

Fraud is possible if...
 
You vote by machines.

What do you think about it. I think it is a high risk for faudulent election.

Hip Priest 11.04.2006 03:51 PM

Or by post, as was recently demonstrated in the UK.

Saturseven 11.04.2006 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static-harmony
You vote by machines.

What do you think about it. I think it is a high risk for faudulent election.

Just have the machines print out a receipt.
Problem solved.

static-harmony 11.04.2006 03:56 PM

But do you keep, your receipt? those things are lost very easily.

atari 2600 11.04.2006 03:56 PM

But, ominously, the overwhelming majority do not print a voting receipt. There is no hard copy record with the new Diebold electronic touch-screen voting machines which can be easily hacked and which will be widely used next Tuesday, November 7th. Lou Dobbs did a report "Democracy at Risk" on CNN and HBO has been airing a documentary called "Hacking Democracy" since Thursday.
review
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-...d_b_33271.html
The HBO documentary is based on the work of Bev Harris, who founded http://www.blackboxvoting.org/, which monitors election accuracy. In 2004 the attorney general of California took up a whistle-blower claim filed by Harris against Diebold and settled with the company for $2.6 million in December.

static-harmony 11.04.2006 03:57 PM

Yeah, there is no way we can trace who voted for who.

Hip Priest 11.04.2006 04:00 PM

The whole thing about machine and postal voting is a fraud itself; politicians like to think that low turnout at elections and general apathy is down to the voting process being 'difficult' (ie people have to get up off their arse for five minutes and walk to a polling station). Politicians have convinced themselves that their lies and dishonesty and general corruption has nothing to do with it.

static-harmony 11.04.2006 04:05 PM

Yeah, and what pisses me off is that a lot of elderly people fall for this. By that I mean they are the ones most suceptible to vote with machines, because they never had any. I still think that the old school way of voting is the best.

Hip Priest 11.04.2006 04:08 PM

And then someone offers to vote for them 'on their behalf'. 'Ooh, that nice young man from the labour party promised he'd vote conservative for me'.

static-harmony 11.04.2006 04:10 PM

I don't think that is possible here.

Hip Priest 11.04.2006 04:14 PM

Labour have ensured that in this country, voting fraud is alive and kicking:

Sparkhill Ward - 2000

In 2000 22 voters were identified who had voted, but were not able to vote at the time either as a result of being out of the country, being dead or being in jail. The Labour majority was 28.


And how about
Labour activists had 'vote-rigging factory' to hijack postal votes
. Bloody Labour.

static-harmony 11.04.2006 04:18 PM

Wow I haven't seen that happening here. People standing over other people while they are voting.

Style 11.04.2006 07:53 PM

I think they should make all voting machines open source.

Intellivision 11.07.2006 07:12 AM

The latest news is that many of the machines (including in the St. Louis senatorial race) will have paper print-outs. This still doesn't dissuade the record number of election observers that are projected. I heard on the news that we will not be getting a receipt here in Virginia.
Watchdog groups are concerned that far too many of the machines actually do not even count votes accurately.

I'm up early this morning because I'm off to vote.

Style 11.07.2006 07:21 AM

I already voted by absentee.

static-harmony 11.07.2006 06:49 PM

See told you they are already saying of this technolgies voting for other people or not voting at all.

static-harmony 11.15.2006 04:55 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061115/...ctronic_voting

e-voting might be out the way.


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