what sucks most is how repetative these stories are..
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Originally Posted by knox
I honestly believe these numbers have something to do with being able to get guns. I was looking at statistics yesterday (regarding women being killed by their partners) and the crime seemed more common in the US than in any other country that does not allow people to purchase guns. In fact, 70%-80% of these murders (throughout the american continent) happen with guns.
I'm not saying there is no killing without guns, I'm saying that it somehow makes it happen less often, less time to think, less to do, easier to do, easier to get away, more prone to accidents and rage.
If people could be saved by giving up the "constitutional right" to carry a weapon, wouldn't you agree itīs for the best?
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Originally Posted by Glice
I was talking to some friends from rural Ohio about this the other day. They're odd (to me, as a Brit) in that their approach is that handguns should be banned, while rifles and so on aren't really that useful for killing people quickly. I'm not sure I agree with them, but I've got more sympathy for their position than the blanket 'It's a constitutional right' cop-out.
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I agree completely, but in reality knox, it is pretty hard to find guns in Los Angeles, as they closed up all the gunshops. Ten years ago there were still a lot of gun shops and street dealers would steal them from inventory shipments at the rail yard in san pedro, you could get brand new in the box nines on the block for dirt cheap. They still sold pistols at Wal-Mart and there were many many gun shops, gun shows, and gun traders. Now there are only a hand full of legitimate dealers in the area, and getting a gun out on the block is much more difficult than ever before, the kids are carrying rusty, beat up and (burned) straps that they keep shuffling around between em, where as they used to have nice shit.
While the murder rate is considerably down from the early-90s, it is still startling high for any place on earth, and that is WITH heavy gun control. I would say from the perspective of California, that gun control works, the problem is that we all have to be on the same page. With Arizona (who is so ironically crying over cartel violence while they are large contributor to all the cross border gun-running
) having such easy laws, a lot of these guns are coming still coming into Cali from there, the US needs to really get back on track.
I say FUCK IT and FUCK the SECOND AMMENDMENT, KILLING IS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION TOO!!
fuck guns!
LA has a serious problem though, they are bullshitting all the time. Whenever gang outreach programs and community leaders negotiate peace treaties and squash beef on the streets, the city fails to back em up and instead of putting after school programs, rehabs and community centers, instead of putting money into the outreach and activists and community leadership who are making all the right moves, they take the gangsters kindness for weakness and impose absurd gang injunctions, sweeps, and put the money into hiring more law enforcement, jail and court staffing, and they perpetuate a climate of fear and wrecklessness!
such potential!