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Originally Posted by knox
My points you have been ignoring:
- The stats that are relevant to this discussion are the ones that point out how people have MORE chances of getting hurt than they do of defending themselves when they have a gun.
- How the gun industry is the same one that makes the guns criminals use.
- How you pay taxes for things like the police, but then you say the government doesn't have to protect citizens.
- On suicide: you will say people who want to commit suicide can do that in many ways, true. The same goes for murder. But when someone has a powerful weapon that can do much damage in less than a second, there's no time to think or to defend yourself: it's done, and it happens more often than it does when people don't have guns and the consequences are worse. That goes for suicide, passionate crimes, anger etc.
- I don't have stats on this, but I'm quite sure most people killed with guns are not expecting it, so it wouldn't matter if they had one or not.
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there is some relevance to some of those facts but for the most part it is just dead end anti-gun rhetoric. There are worst case scenarios and there are best case scenarios. You choose to point out the worst as say all end all to any benefits to owning a gun. You have conveniently ignored all my points and haven't commented on scenarios involving guns working in the owners favor.
And most importantly, as a gun owner.... non of of your so called facts relate to me personally or anyone I know so now you are just generalizing.
It's like saying I demand they ban alcohol because some people drink and drive, while the majority would favor alcohol as they are capable of drinking responsibly. It's the exact same argument minus your fear factor of guns.
I guarantee more people own guns responsibly and without incident than those who do and are involved in a murder with one.... in fact, I'd guarantee that that ratio far outweighs any worst case scenario you've portrayed. I'd also guarantee that more people who drink alcohol get into trouble as a result than those who own guns get into trouble as a result of owning a gun. So, shall we demand that they ban alcohol as well?