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ann ashtray · 11.12.2010, 06:57 AM

Musically, hip hop and blues indeed have little to nothing in common. However, in the mainstream world of each (let's not forget there was a time when blues was little more than black pop music, and got plenty of radio play) they are lyrically very similar. Yes, I put emphasis on that word "mainstream". Blues, as a form of pop music, was often about cars (Terraplane Blues, by Robert Johnson), women, and drugs (Malted Milk, another Johnson piece). I use Robert as an example because he was a man that wished to break into the popular world of blues, something that wouldn't happen during his lifetime (to be precise, it wouldn't happen until nearly 30 years after he deceased), and was writing songs around the same subject matter that was popular at that time. Basically, he was on some level mimicking what was already popular. Also, the audiences of each genre often responded to the music in similar ways. It could be very dancey. It wasn't always about the emotional stress of being a black American, as seems to be the stereotype in many cases. In other words, it's easy to make connections between the genres if one wishes to do so.

And what does blues have to do with punk, metal, indie, whatever? Good question, and in all actuality while this day in age the sub-genres of rock music often have little to do with blues, they still came from blues non-the-less. Of course, this isn't something that really matters, unless you are interested in the historical aspects of music (as I am, there are links in the way music has evolved, and these links often have very interesting stories to tell). Most of your earlier punk bands were definitely utilizing the blues scale...bands such as the Sex Pistols/ect which were direct descendants of the Dolls and Stooges, who both were largely influenced by the MC5, who was widely influenced my John Lee Hooker and Hendrix. Of course, I don't think any fan of punk rock should be expected to appreciate the blues, but history is history and again, it's something I'm interested in.

Whatever.

And for the record, I'm not in the slightest bit embarrassed by anything I said yesterday. I started a thread loosely expressing (+ yes, drunkenly expressing...it's fun) some opinions + was attacked for it. Naturally, I retaliated and when the whole thing got stupid (as it often does with you guys) I left...it had nothing to do with me admitting to being wrong about anything.

11.12.2010, 06:57 AM	#174
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	Musically, hip hop and blues indeed have little to nothing in common. However, in the mainstream world of each (let's not forget there was a time when blues was little more than black pop music, and got plenty of radio play) they are lyrically very similar. Yes, I put emphasis on that word "mainstream". Blues, as a form of pop music, was often about cars (Terraplane Blues, by Robert Johnson), women, and drugs (Malted Milk, another Johnson piece). I use Robert as an example because he was a man that wished to break into the popular world of blues, something that wouldn't happen during his lifetime (to be precise, it wouldn't happen until nearly 30 years after he deceased), and was writing songs around the same subject matter that was popular at that time. Basically, he was on some level mimicking what was already popular. Also, the audiences of each genre often responded to the music in similar ways. It could be very dancey. It wasn't always about the emotional stress of being a black American, as seems to be the stereotype in many cases. In other words, it's easy to make connections between the genres if one wishes to do so. And what does blues have to do with punk, metal, indie, whatever? Good question, and in all actuality while this day in age the sub-genres of rock music often have little to do with blues, they still came from blues non-the-less. Of course, this isn't something that really matters, unless you are interested in the historical aspects of music (as I am, there are links in the way music has evolved, and these links often have very interesting stories to tell). Most of your earlier punk bands were definitely utilizing the blues scale...bands such as the Sex Pistols/ect which were direct descendants of the Dolls and Stooges, who both were largely influenced by the MC5, who was widely influenced my John Lee Hooker and Hendrix. Of course, I don't think any fan of punk rock should be expected to appreciate the blues, but history is history and again, it's something I'm interested in. Whatever. And for the record, I'm not in the slightest bit embarrassed by anything I said yesterday. I started a thread loosely expressing (+ yes, drunkenly expressing...it's fun) some opinions + was attacked for it. Naturally, I retaliated and when the whole thing got stupid (as it often does with you guys) I left...it had nothing to do with me admitting to being wrong about anything. __________________ Team Thurston!
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