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Originally Posted by kinn
and it's not like you want to debate. you just don't want to know. i don't care that this is the case. i didn't really expect you to take down capitalist imperialism all by yourself. just don't tell the rest of us we should either support the military or be quiet because that IS stupid.
and there are people amongst the US population that are far more intelligent and sane than those in charge of foreign policy. people who aren't as insane as rumsfeld, people who don't believe in neo conservatism or american exceptionalism or millenarianism ffs. same in the uk.
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Oh I just don't want to know? Thanks for telling me how I feel. I was unsure until then.
The problem with you is you make great points, and then afterwards, you shit all over them with assumptions and basic cliche anti american shit.
I can't help where I was born. I don't believe in spreading of christianity or democracy. It's fucking stupid. And it's laughable to me that we preach freedom at the end of a barrel of a gun.
BUT.
No matter how reasonable we could grow to be....people are still going to want to try to kill us. I think we should worry about defense rather than going to other countrys and blowing them up.
Maybe I still dont get it, maybe I was raised in the era of fear.
The point I was trying to make is that in world history, the only people to ever rule anything were greedy politicians or the military in times of war. Athens vs Spartans etc.
The people bitch about it, sometimes revolt, and then things go back to the way they've always been.
The wiki leaks are pretty weak themselves, not really important.
I just dont think battle plans and shit should be leaked. Seems counter productive to us getting the hell out of there.
But then again, we probably arent fighting for anything other than dibs on our dwindling natural resources.