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Old 07.27.2011, 02:04 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Pookie

1) No he didn't. Unless you can provide a link to prove this.

2) Again this information came from the US backed rebels only. This is the only way it should be.

3) US/UK only ever get involved to insure US/UK friendly regimes are installed/maintained.

4) Not yet it hasn't!

5) Why? Who are the resistance movement? Why are they better than the present regime? They are lead by people who were Gaddafi loyalists until recently. That makes them what exactly? Representative of the ordinary people?

1) Huffington Post liberal enough for ya?
Maybe something from India?
Or the good ol' New York Times?

2) The UN recognised a No-Fly zone
"Authorizing ‘All Necessary Measures’ to Protect Civilians"
If you dont know what a no-fly zone is, it means any military forces coming into the area are allowed to be engaged.

3) In the past, definitely (assasination of Allende in Chile, many others). But look at Egypt - The Israeli lobby is very wary of the Egyptian uprising because Egypt was always a close ally of Israel under Mubarak. The Muslim Brotherhood is growing in influence, and the US and Israel definitely doesnt want them becoming a political force. Im not naive about the way America exerts its influence, but its not like theyre assasinating Hugo Chavez any more.
(edited, i misread your point the first time)

4) Egypt; A dictatorship of 30 years has been gone for 4 or 5 months. I guess if you cant overhaul an entire societal and political culture in a fortnight its not worth bothering. Revolution is such a drag aint it? And besides, given your previous statement, why do you even give a shit what they do?

5) "Why? Who are the resistance movement? Why are they better than the present regime? They are lead by people who were Gaddafi loyalists until recently. That makes them what exactly? Representative of the ordinary people?"

This is a fair point of concern, lest i appear too gung ho for you rugged libertarian types. When you have a society structured around the rule of a dictator the only people who have ANY military experience or expertise are members of the dictators' army/police/secret police. That they would risk the obvious horrors involved in defecting makes them brave, if not neccessarily secular democrats like I. Again, I dont sit in my chair demanding that the world instantly change to my tastes overnight; that would make me the politcal equivolant of the guy at the back of the indie rock show complaining that they prefer the early stuff before the original bass player left to deal with his smack habit. Practical neccessity means they are going to be a broad church however, and thats exactly what Gadaffi and all dictators like to crush to keep themselves in power.
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