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Old 02.06.2012, 07:54 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
agnosticism is not about being "neutral" in the dispute but rather declaring the dispute a futile one-- "i cannot know". which is what you're doing.

see here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

read up the first couple of paragraphs and you'll see that you fall into the "agnostic atheist" category (so do i for that matter).



For me there is a fence...the fence itself is agnostic (which I agree with that much, often times it is "I cannot know", other times it's "I don't care enough to know"). Above the fence is believing, below is non believing. Of course you're going to have varying degrees of the above/below sections (Some believe with some level of doubt, while others do not believe but still have doubts).

I don't believe, at all. Just being that I have no ammunition to disprove god, it's not fair for me to say "I know for a fact god doesn't exist". I don't get much into the subtitles/etc...the "agnostic atheist" (most atheists as far as I am concerned are this by default...I also feel most believers are really agnostic by default). No one "knows". This is why when it comes to debates, usually the one that "knows" loses. They can never prove their beliefs...never.

I've said it before, but the thing about being an atheist is that only the ignorant expect me to be able to offer answers. I don't have to prove a negative. It's those that have to prove a positive that run into problems. Problems usually meaning people like me that enjoy going out of my way to call them out on bullshit. Some say this is rude...I try, when possible, to be nice about it. I feel it's necessary.

A kid wants answers to some of life's more complex questions...I can honestly say "I don't know".

Taken the kid might be more inquisitive than the typical believer....the believer might run into problems explaining his beliefs.

I'll never have to answer some utter bullshit like "Is it possible for a man to live in the belly of a whale" or "can snakes really talk"? Of course, the answer to this is "no".

If I'm asked if I believe in god it's simply "no". When asked can I prove god doesn't exist it's also "no". I believe he doesn't, that's all I have to say.

Big difference between "knowing" and "believing"....for the faithful, however, these two words almost always mean the same exact thing. At least, that's the way they present their "beliefs".
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