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Originally Posted by dead_battery

what more do you want me to say?

good would be no war or murder. fair resource distribution, the breaking up of copyright and intellectual property monopolies. peaceful coexistence.

people should start life with enough resources to not have to be coerced into or voluntarily seek exploitative economic/social/sexual relationships.

even if we had a law that functioned properly and actually punished those that lie us into war etc. but we dont.

representative democracy is a farce. im supposed to vote for a candidate and if the majority votes for someone else, that person is supposed to "represent" my interests. bullshit.

noone can do anything to change this because we're all trapped in a zero sum economic game.

i think we all know what the good is anyway.

the economic inequality of the present is the greatest in history so far, yet there is absolutely no effective programme to change it!

baudrillard again - we're beyond the point of revolution.

i think what's happening to us now is that we're approaching a point where the value of producing a human at all will be recognized as entirely negative. by human i mean prole. the rich have their dynasties and will do just fine.

what NOONE says about global warming is that the best way to reduce your carbon emissions is to die. i think the system of economic rationality we're locked into is approaching some weird moment wherein those of us still inhabiting reality are simply sealed into it as units indistinguishable from their environment. we're totally surveilled, mapped, pre plotted entities. the UK gov got into trouble for suggesting it could tell pensioners when they are likely to die so they could plan for the pensions better.

now the outrage against this disgusts me, because it is folksy immortalism. like that cunt palin spreading lies about death panels.

the fact is that the governments ability to predict when you will die, based on your data, is a process that is increasing in its technical mastery to the point where it will eventually be totally accurate.

so we're progressing towards a system that could solve its environmental issues by simply regulating the production of humans.

you see where this is going?

this is why baudrillard said even death was disappearing.

corporations won't just "own" your data and genome, they'll be able to fucking simulate your existence before it even happens! there will be so much data about exactly what your life would be like, it won't even be profitable for you to be born in the first place.

i've been kind of letting this soak in the back of my head for a day.

and i wanted to come back and ask why you're not a communist. but then i reread the 2nd part about population control, etc, so i must ask--

are you perchance a closet maoist? not closeted as in hidden but closeted in that maybe you are but don't know.

of course not a 40s maoist but a revamped version.

porksmarras says he's a communist but decries leninism (i think)

i don't want to get into discussions of economic systems or why they would/ wouldn't work, but it seems to me your ideals (your "possible good") are rather similar to teh marxist utopia.

am i wrong?

are you a disillusioned marxist?