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Actually, db, your posts are very interesting and thoughtful, except for the parts where you completely dismiss (and dis) those who really fuckin enjoy the 2010+ releases. I genuinely do want to thank you for these posts, and you do compel me to explore early Swans, as other posters do. But WHY THE FUCK do some of us insist that 30yr old Gira and 60yr old Gira, surrounded by a very different cast of characters in ech era, not be in very different places in the spectrum that is still concerned with serious, powerful "rock" music? (And I come to Swans as a Noisehead.)
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