The more I read of this thread the happier I am that I don't know pre-2010 Swans (yet). Seer and TBK are monumentally great albums. Someone said they find the longest songs pointless. There's not a wasted second in them, imho. Swans make 2hr albums that feel much shorter, and leave you wishing they were longer. Gira has an uncanny ability to always keep things moving. There's no noodling here. Fuckin love TBK, unjaded by history in any way.
