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Old 05.30.2014, 10:03 AM   #188
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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i've been kind of letting this soak in the back of my head for a day.

and i wanted to come back and ask why you're not a communist. but then i reread the 2nd part about population control, etc, so i must ask--

are you perchance a closet maoist? not closeted as in hidden but closeted in that maybe you are but don't know.

of course not a 40s maoist but a revamped version.

porksmarras says he's a communist but decries leninism (i think)

i don't want to get into discussions of economic systems or why they would/ wouldn't work, but it seems to me your ideals (your "possible good") are rather similar to teh marxist utopia.

am i wrong?

are you a disillusioned marxist?

i had many replies to this that got long and ended in frustration.

as you all know very well i oscillate between being a despairing liberal, a pyschotic terrorist revenge fantasist that wants to see the blood those in power have inflicted on us through their wars and austericide inflicted back on them, and someone who just wants to escape life, death, sex etc. and not have to deal with this shit.

not much point in playing the label game. we're all disillusioned marxists whether we want to admit it or not, since all our societies function with mixtures of socialism and capitalism. of course i want the best possible deal for the poor. of course i want nuclear energy, eventually fusion, clean water, the cheapest possible living standards. only posing idiots or corporate shills of the ignorant don't want these things.

but these are just in the interests of my survival. what really interests me is understanding where the system is going and what the ultimate fate of humanity is - extinction/disappearance/accelerated evolution into the components/fuel for our post human ascendants. trying to understand the processes that are at work today, which will shape the future - this is worth thinking and writing about.

there are only a few people tied to the empty shell that is marxism that even trying to do this. synthetic zero, preciado

im not a marxist because i dont prescribe totally to the analysis of marx, i read his biog and have picked up ideas here and there. to me its just a religious theory of capitalism that justifies it, and its incredibly limited, if not totally obsolete in many ways. it takes the christian ideal of a people transcending their conditions into a new heaven very seriously, and this ideal disgusts me and its grip on the unconscious minds of the majority of western thinkers is their greatest handicap and a really insulting thing to read.

capitalism is one economic system and will eventually be superseded by something else, and arguably that's happening now. its a rigged scam and the majority of us will be destroyed by it or already have been, and are just desperately trying to survive with what little scraps we can. the idea that it is morally superior or more efficient is a load of bullshit. chinas communist party just did capitalism BETTER than anyone else ever has. chinese farmers were seeing something like a 700% increase in profits over the past few decades. the fact is that they kicked your fucking amerinazis asses and you're only hobbling along as world superpower cos of all the ships and military might you've built up. china proved that all the bullshit our societies told itself about capitalism was exactly that, and that american style free market fundamentalism is a theory just as ridiculous and fantastical as anything the stalinists had. chinas communist party was able to organize a form of capitalism that in a mere few decades has totally exceeded american productivity.

what would be even more ridiculous would be to subscribe to dead ideas about the end of history and liberal capitalist democracy winning out as the last and best system ever. this is just such a farce its not even worth taking seriously.

it's as futile and useless to side with capitalism as it is with anything else, because none of us are gonna save or beat the stock market and get anywhere. it's all rigged against us, it exists to feed off us. even the dream of owning a home is a disappearing for the middle classes.

not that i condemn anyone for trying desperately to do this, because you're just trying to survive and not end up fucking homeless. i understand being so beaten down and ruined by the system that you're rage and suffering eventually leads you to a kind of perverse conformity where you reclaim some sense of control by externalizing your shit into the idea of a harsh ruthless world in which only those not naive enough to see this truth can have a chance of holding onto something against the tide.

what im interested in is the distribution of all scientific/technical techniques and data through p2p networks and new experimental sub cultures of neuro/body hacking, because this is our first line of defense. i'm interested in individuals being able to power, shelter and feed themselves outside of and partially along with the markets. so something like the tea party coming out and telling the koch bros to fuck off and supporting individuals right to install solar panels is the kind of thing that excites me, cos the right and left converge at times. there's little about the system that is remotely legitimate today and anyone that isn't trying to think through it and disseminate the knowledge and tools for people to survive it and find whatever freedom they can from its traps of addiction, poverty and stupidity is worth supporting.

clinging to bullshit conceptual or semantic games is a waste of time, so is biography. you may as well stare at my shit in the toiletbowl than look inside my imaginary self for some truth.
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