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Originally Posted by Severian
I'm not hurting my argument that the Beates are influential by saying that music theory relies at least partially on non-scientific research.
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No you're hurting it by then saying that there is no objective way to measure influence. Im not pretending the theory is 100% but what science is even near that? Music theory helps us understand the underlying structures of music in a scientific way and then we can use that to extrapolate evidence to explain influence. No different then color theory in the visual arts. Hence why i said you are over intellectualizing it. I am not in anyway claiming that it is 100% definitive rather i am saying that IF we want to evaluate influence or innovation THAT is where we should look for evidence and NOT merely in our music critic opinions. See, is that so hard?