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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
No you're hurting it by then saying that there is no objective way to measure influence. Im not pretending the theory is 100% but what science is even near that? Music theory helps us understand the underlying structures of music in a scientific way and then we can use that to extrapolate evidence to explain influence. No different then color theory in the visual arts. Hence why i said you are over intellectualizing it. I am not in anyway claiming that it is 100% definitive rather i am saying that IF we want to evaluate influence or innovation THAT is where we should look for evidence and NOT merely in our music critic opinions. See, is that so hard?
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No it's not hard. I'm not having difficulty understanding anything you're saying, and I'm sure you're not having any trouble with what I'm saying. We obviously come from different academic backgrounds, and speak overlapping but still different languaes. I thought you were saying that it was somehow possible to make an actual scientific case out of this. And while I do think and know that the Beatles are influential, I wouldn't ever try to back that scientifically.
So, I'm sure we're both right about a lot of stuff. I'm good here. You good? We good?
Also, did you effing listen to "I Want you (she's so heavy)" or not, because I'm really interested in what you think of that particular song.