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Originally Posted by noisereductions
#annoying
whatever. It's a "bonus track" in my head.
@Kayne: Just release the fucking thing on CD and end it already.
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Well, it's a good song.
But it's true that for me, TLOP ends with the nuclear winter that is "Fade." And while I think "Saint Pablo" is the kind of Kanye track that fans (ex-fans?) like louder will be able to get behind, I think it's a bit silly to still add shit to the album.
But at the same time, this has become a pretty unprecedented thing. You mentioned early on that Weezer had been there/done that with Maladroit, but what they did was simply focus group early songs in an attempt to maximize fan reaction (and payout).
This has been a large scale experiment with the album format. It's going to make for some interesting discussions at the end of the year. How are the Grammys going to react to this, for instance? Probably by not nominating TLOP for anything, because the Grammys suck. But what about pitchfork? Well... Pitchfork sucks and is awful too, but their year end lists are consistently better than the Grammys. So, do the changes alter the album's rating? Which version of the album is the "true" version? Ultimately, I think TLOP is whatever each fab wants it to be, while also being a bunch of other things. For better or worse, he's still playing to the beat of his own drum.
EDIT: I think Pitchfork should actually re-review the album because their 9.0 rating came right after the album's 17 track TIDAL release. Therefore, it reviews an embryonic mastering, incomplete lyrical content, and a tracklist that's three songs too short.
Kanye has some issues with the music journalism industry, and I've gotta say, what he's done with Pablo is a pretty effective way of making those trend-setting word of God websites scramble and wonder what the fuck to do. It's pretty funny, really. At the end of the day, this is by far the most unconventional and, indeed,
anti-traditional thing Kanye West has ever done, and that's saying a lot. I like the fact that it takes some of the focus off of his private life and public bumfuckery and places it back on the music, which is where it should have been all along.
Also, since TLOP dropped, Pitchfork has made the utterly silly mistake of ranking two albums above it. Radiohead's A Moon Shaped Pool, which is nice and all, but is no work of genius.... And Chance's Coloring Book, which exists in part
because of TLOP, and despite being a brilliant album, it's got a few moments that make that 0.1 point higher than Pablo rating seem quite stupid indeed. (See Justin Bieber. Yuck.) But really, who gives a shit? It makes for intersting conversation and that's a good thing.