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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i was just demonstrating a point. i just didn't put a winky-winky next to it.
but more seriously, i think there's a place and a time for righteous indignation. democracy is not about hippy-dippy everything goes. it also doesn't mean that everyone is right.
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But again, it is not hippie-dippy anything.. the fundamental premise of democracy is that people vote THEIR CHOICE whatever THEIR CHOICE is, period. It is a reflection of people's political voice. If they disagree with a "lesser evil" candidate it is THEIR FUNDAMENTAL CHOICE not to support or vote for that candidate.
Otherwise we fall into fascism by every single definition.
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this may be more of an east coast/ wast coast thing or LA vs the rest of the planet, but there are situations when people need to be called out on their bullshit.
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What bullshit? Now I agree with you completely for those who perhaps naively believe a third party candidate can actually win but that is besides the point entirely. If people sincerely support a candidate who can't win it is again their fundamental right, hence democracy.
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ohio is a battleground state. we're still a few months out and anything can happen. ohio could be in 2016 what florida was in 2000.
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Yes I am aware, I have taught high school civics, I understand the structure of elections. However again that isn't the point. If folks such as yourself support a particular candidate, be it Overlord Hillary or anyone, than your responsibility is to convince people to vote for that candidate in order to yes "win" the proportionate amount of votes.
and I notice you mentioned Florida. Fine. I recall people saying Nader cost the election for Gore. NONSENSE. If Gore supporters couldn't convince several hundred people to vote for Gore that shit has ZERO to do with Ralph Nader and his supporters.
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and i agree with evollove that there are much more important things in the world than one's personal self-satisfaction.
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again that is where you entirely miss the point just as he did. YOU might believe a particular candidate you support is important, other people might disagree. Again, THAT is democracy. Folks can't have it be a democracy only when it fits their agenda, and then want to antagonize people who disagree with them by voting for a different candidate.
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your precious feelings have to take back seat to important matters.
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It has nothing to do with my feelings or anyone's feelings, it has to do with the fundamental and ontological premises underlying democracy. What you propose is a kind of fascism and weirdly inverted form of jingoism.
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he articulated that beautifully and peppered it with the right kind and number of profanities. learn to appreciate good writing, for the love of fuck.
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can you be any less condescending or insulting? I mean I get it , I can be an asshole sometimes but not in this instance. I am being quite reasonable meanwhile...
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and calling people out on their bs is not "bullying". bullying is trying to keep them from the polls, beating them up in the street, and intimidating them with threat of harm. nobody here has threatened to hurt anyone. it's just an exchange of ideas, maybe too metal for your delicate ears. don't be a drama queen.
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No bullying is trying to convince them they are horrible people and they are the root of all evils in our society and everything is their fault if they disagree with your candidate. Sorry. maybe its you who can't appreciate good writing
