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Originally Posted by noisereductions
not to be a jerk, but you also don't listen to a lot of new rappers. Joey Bada$$ def sounds influenced by Nas/Illmatic for one. And obviously that goes for Pro Era.
I'd say that bits of A$AP Mob ("Trillmatic"!), Flatbush Zombies, and their peers especially in NYC are def still influenced by it.
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care to be a bit more specific? A quote, a specific track? Something other then more or less conjecture? I am not sneak dissing, legitimate question. Just because I don't listen to all new rap, doesn't mean I haven't heard enough to notice if something sounded like something as foundational as Illmatic!
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I don't think that was his point, unless I took it wrong or he had trouble actually saying it. I mean saying that "old school heads" don't care, would to me mean that people who still listen to old school hip hop don't listen to that one album and see it as "overrated," and I totally disagree.
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I could be wrong, Rob is definitely grown enough to explain himself, but my interpretation of how Nas can be overrated is just that, while he was huge in his era, I just haven't seen the kind of lasting impact on a new generation, the way say Nirvana has. Young kids are talking about all kinds of new rap, young kids are talking about all kinds of great legendary rock bands, I just haven't overheard a conversation or seen a t-shirt or any kind of reference to Nas or Illmatic from the teenagers today.
As to the oldheads, same thing, while most of the people our age or slightly older certainly bumped Nas and Illmatic in its day, I haven't gotten into anyone's car or went to anyone's house or just heard a car passing by bumping that record in YEARS..
meanwhile I hear things like Tupac and Biggie routinely..