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hey cmon don't attack the ramones- they were one of the bands who didn't want that "punk" label in the first place. 1980's ramones =NOT TOO GREAT- but they were truly apart of the "punk scene"--tho I do agree with you on The Sex Pistols- who rooted from what Malcom McClaren took from Richard Hell over to england where "PUNK" became very open to the media and more then just downtown scene(what happened in the US) and this --- Jheii >>>> "Punk is like Anarchism - A lot of people claim to be a part of it, but aren't and most people who are a part of it don't believe that they are."
The term "punk" comes from the fanzine/magazine started by Legs Mcneil++John Holstrom--- which would of been called "teenage news" but Legs thought that name thought up by John was a bad idea- so it became Punk. Their first mag featured Lou Reed+ The Ramones(because they WERE apart of what is known as "punk")
alot of the punk scene didn't even want this but got it because it was a simple label to put on anyone who played that kind of downtown music at Max's or CBGB's-- really how many of these threads have occured tho?? I'm sure by now alot of people have been educated on the subject matter or know it, the best sources are those who were involved with the scene, know+have experienced it--- if you don't know alot about the scene you should definitely look deeper into it, thru media devoted to the truth and less of the nostalgia stuff-- Some examples-
DVD+++ Punk: Attitude(great documentary/ also features Thurston Moore and Sonic Footage*must drop since this is a Sonic Youth board :-P)
Please Kill Me(book featuring quotes that came from many involved in the pre punk and "punk" scene - such as Iggy+the stooges/Velvet Underground/Ny Dolls to Patti Smith/Richard Hell(neon boys/television/heartbreakers/voidoids)/Richard Lloyd(television) to the ramones ...etc
THE INTERNET
and if you don't get it- you'll probably never get it.
EDIT : BY THE WAY GREAT WILLIAM BURROUGHS QUOTE AND A FEW PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT IT-- (SOME IN PUNK: ATTITUDE)
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