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Originally Posted by Hip Priest
There was no efort to 'start shit', and I mean that sincerely. The insults directed at noumenal and truncated were unfair, in my opinion.
It is absolutely not right to suggest (as you did) that the one person's opinion is inferior, or that he or she is not to be taken seriously, merely because you have been using the Sonic Youth forum for a longer space of time. Do you submit to others merely because they have been on internet forums for longer? I'm sure you are intelligent enough to have better criteria than that, khchris?
Sorry, khchris, but re-read my post. Then tell me where I hurled insults. There were no insults contained in my post, just an expression of dissappoinment and an expression of opinion. Similar to the expression of dissappointment and expression of opinion that you have shown. That is surely allowable?
If you are allowed to insult people, then surely others should be allowed to defend them? No?
Yes, I did read the thread. Were you under the impression that it was a 100% serious internet dating thread?
I wanted to defend noumenal and truncated, yes. In the past though, I have defended people with whom I have never spoken a word, or even ones who I had argued with. It's not merely about friends. Although if noumenal and truncated are my friends, then I'm happy about it. What's so bad about that? You have spent years creating and maintaining animosity, you have to accept that sometimes opinions will be directed back at you.
I made the post not merely because of your words, but because of the fact that the yclash somewhat with the thread about 'new starts' that you instigated on the old board and because of your comment on this board about how umpleasant it is to be attacked. There is a certain amount of jarring there, is there not?
I would remind you that this is a deliberately very open forum, where we can all express ourselves. You know that already. In fact, you take advantage of it to state some very harsh opinions both of topics and posters. On most moderated forums, many of your own posts would have been deleted by moderators.
You have made it clear in the past that you consider my posts to be pretty much irrelevant, and that I am too insignificant for you. So how can you be dissappointed in me?
I could care who's at fault. The fact is that every single person who posts on forums (including yourself, khchris) posts in a thread with something off-topic. To suggest that you do not post off-topic (and indeed abusive) things is wrong.
Again, I didn't hurl any insults - I made some points based upon your comments. As you have done here. I can accept it, this is a forum, I expect disagreement occaisionally. But be honest with me - I did not 'hurl insults'.
My entire posting record shows that I am tolerant and unabusive. I have strong opinions on some things, but I accept that they are not everyone's and I always try to handle insults and critcism with measured response (see the 'overrated bands' thread if you don't believe me). I have never bullied anyone, khchris, and I believe that you are using that word because it's one that I myself have used against flaming (including your own) in the past. I dislike bullying intensely, I would not go in for it.
Trust me, if I wished to bully you I would have voted in your 'I am Cool' thread and insulted you there. If I wanted to bully you then I would have taken that chance. In fact, given your insults towards me on the old forum, I could have refused to speak to you or acknowledge your posts on this one, but I felt that the 'new start' idea was a good one.
I'll repeat from my previous post, if I may: I'm sure my opinions don't count, as I'm a newbie, or brainwashed, or part of a gang or a 'musical nazi' or my family deserve to die or (yawn) whatever.
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The insults directed at Noumenal & %&^%(%^ were in defense. They came at me, I defended myself. Case closed.
What does "length of SY Board membership" have to do with the fact that:
Hip Priest, Noumenal, and (*&@#$ came onto this thread for the sole purpose of starting shit(that they obviously can't finish on their own)?
I was under the impression that this thread was about "internet dating".
I guess you must've thought this thread was the, "I'm going to start shit with the guy that insulted my friend". Dude, atleast you can comment on "internet dating" instead of looking like an obsessed freak.(gee...)
The problem with you backing Noumenal and *&(&^( is this: they started shit, I just defended it.
Think of yourself as "England" supporting the US Military invasion of Iraq. It's not right, but because they're "your friends", you made the foolish decision to enter an argument that had absolutely nothing to do with you.
I guess you have nothing better to do than to "play Big Brother", right?
Hip Priest, you don't look like "Big Brother". You look like someone bored to death looking for an argument, just like Noumenal and &%^)%*.
I can see how you guys get along so well. You all are bored, have no life, have serious ego-powertrip problems, and feel better when you have "numbers" behind you because you all are too weak to defend yourselves on your own, especially on shit you guys start.
Next.(yawn.)