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Originally Posted by pantophobia

very true, people do change thought with time, and compared to others in the party cept McCain he's not the worst one could do

edit: to clarify, i am not defending nobody for what anyone did

look at Al Gore, he went from PMRC's senator spokesbitch in 1985, to teaching about global warming 20 years later

well int he case of gore, i'll consider his transformation complete if he manages to run for the presidency and win

as for rudy giuliani, i do not believe him to be a changed person-- he seized the political opportunity of the disaster & ran with it. to me he's the same prick as always...

more of a changed person though is mccaine... though he is far from a saint, and has had a history of corruption, at least he is half decent and makes some ballsy stands. i do applaud his position against torture. but i do not particularly like him, and in the back of my mind i fear he might one day snap and put us all through some dr. strangelove scenario... "precious bodily fluids" and what not... well thats just my own paranoia of course...