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Originally Posted by auto-aim
I'm also in the camp of the first band i ever REALLY loved that got my into other stuff good stuff... I still love them too, but have played them to death.
So i dont know. He does have a big tendancy to be completly pretentious and egotistical. Its hard because he doesn't often show a modest side publically but when you listen to some pumpkins b-sides and like all the zwan stuff and chicago songs that never saw the light of day it shows a pretty amazing talent. I'd go as far to say that he is the most diverse musician that i've ever heard - and the best at it. (im not talking about way out there stuff but in terms of different types of music and doing ti well) So i personally think he's justified in it in a lot of ways as he speaks a lot of sense most of the time. And lastly i'll say, before this post gets too long, I wouldn't say he's a sell out at all... he never cast any aspersions to what kind of artist he wanted to be, and i'd say made it pretty clear that he wanted the pumpkins to be the biggest band in the world and make a lot of money and all that shit. On the flipside of that, though it often backfires, I'd say he tries to do a little bit for fans of the band and releasing machina 2 they way they did is pretty cool.
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Word. I think he wanted pumpkins to be the biggest band in the world without selling out. Hell, that's why he quit! He was sick of losing to shit music, and prefered to quit than try to compete with them. I'd say he's got a right to be bitter. Fuck, I am bitter. In 1990, at 8 years old, I already new that new kids on the block was shit. Everyone seemed to know it, and they bombed. Then 10 years later my favorite band breaks up essentially because Simon Cowell kept the dream alive.