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Originally Posted by truncated

I've tried green tea before, and while I do generally feel better if I drink that rather than coffee, it hasn't got enough kick to it.

Doesn't hoodia supposedly have some kind of energy-boosting property? Where are all the skinny bitches on this board?

nonsense, depends on how much you drink. obviously a little cuppa is not going to do it if you're hooked on espressos. i drink a small teapot with 4 bags for breakfast and then 4 more at mid morning-- brewed like it should be. or i'll make 8 bags of english breakfast instead. now estimate 6-8 oz of water per cup. that takes care of thirst too for the most part.

but if you're just looking for something to make your kidneys bleed, just say it

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ps of course guarana has caffeine, that's the whole point. same as with yerba mate.
pps - in the long term ginseng will give "da ladies" a nice fuzzy moustache. but the female equivalent (minus the undesirable increased testosterone production) is dong quai, available in many a hippy market.