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there's this famous quote that jello met jeff the vocalist and the other dude that killed himself later or something and they kept telling him "you hate dc, right?, you hate ian mackaye, right?"
they were bleak as shit, i have a flipside vhs tape with a bunch of performances and it has the video for teen love, it's just the song with some images going along with it and the lyrics sometimes scrolling on the screen, but i was disappointed as i wanted to see how they looked and sounded live. i mean, if i thought flipper looked so bleak then i can't imagine how no trend would look like.
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