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Originally Posted by Pookie
Not even Sway would call Stooges, Sex Pistols, Crass, or Sonic Youth hardcore punk.
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Well, I sure wouldn't say the other ones were hardcore at any point (aside from a few throwaway covers by Sonic Youth of course) but Cr@ss's first album was The Feeding of the 5000 which featured 18 songs at 45 RPM! As arguably the first punk band to bring Anarchy into the genre as a serious political statement (unlike the Pistols throwing it around for pure shock value) as well as to start their own record label, they certainly brought a whole lot to the movement that directly influenced the new generation of mostly American bands. Yes, they departed from this phase by their third album, but so did Husker Du who are topping many a list here.