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!@#$%! · 04.20.2007, 02:06 PM

you know man it's funny you post this because my wife teaches at a university where there are incidents of domestic violence (boyfriend goes chasing the girlfriend walks into class beats her up-- really) and after this campus shit we've been talking about getting her some sort of self-defense weapon. i bought her a mace some time ago but she lost it. we've discussed guns, tazers & more.

i told her also the story of that appalachian school where some armed dudes disarmed a lunatic.

i am not opposed to people having guns for self-defense. i think it's a good idea. i'm against banning guns. however, i would license guns to people who
a) submit themselves to psychological testing (sure it can be fooled but it's better than nothing)
b) have no prior convictions of domestic violence
c) take a thorough weapons training course where they learn the rights and responsibilities of carrying firearms, and learn proper care & maintenance of their weapons.

i have NO problem with that.

where i have a problem is when any fucking asshole can walk into walmart and walk out with a pistol and ammunition. people with anger management issues. people who have substance abuse problems. people who are irresponsible and have no control of themselves. people who use guns to intimidate others. people with a big fucking chip on their shoulder. people who pull out a gun in traffic because you accidentally cut them off. wife-beaters. lunatics, like this cho asshole.

getting to drive a car is more difficult than packing a six shooter. that's just fucking wrong. if you get license, and training, i say get what you need for your self defense. but guns in the hands of unstable people and incompetents are more dangerous than anything.

again you conflate the 2nd amendment with the individual right to self defense. a lot of people do that, but they are 2 different things. 2 as in two as in dos as in a pair. i know a lot of people do that but it's not true. the "militia" preamble make things quite clear.

i don't believe any fucker has the "right" to go & own instruments of killing. he may have the right to free speech and habeas corpus and what not, but not this. he's not in a well-organized militia.

04.20.2007, 02:06 PM	#435
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,731	you know man it's funny you post this because my wife teaches at a university where there are incidents of domestic violence (boyfriend goes chasing the girlfriend walks into class beats her up-- really) and after this campus shit we've been talking about getting her some sort of self-defense weapon. i bought her a mace some time ago but she lost it. we've discussed guns, tazers & more. i told her also the story of that appalachian school where some armed dudes disarmed a lunatic. i am not opposed to people having guns for self-defense. i think it's a good idea. i'm against banning guns. however, i would license guns to people who a) submit themselves to psychological testing (sure it can be fooled but it's better than nothing) b) have no prior convictions of domestic violence c) take a thorough weapons training course where they learn the rights and responsibilities of carrying firearms, and learn proper care & maintenance of their weapons. i have NO problem with that. where i have a problem is when any fucking asshole can walk into walmart and walk out with a pistol and ammunition. people with anger management issues. people who have substance abuse problems. people who are irresponsible and have no control of themselves. people who use guns to intimidate others. people with a big fucking chip on their shoulder. people who pull out a gun in traffic because you accidentally cut them off. wife-beaters. lunatics, like this cho asshole. getting to drive a car is more difficult than packing a six shooter. that's just fucking wrong. if you get license, and training, i say get what you need for your self defense. but guns in the hands of unstable people and incompetents are more dangerous than anything. again you conflate the 2nd amendment with the individual right to self defense. a lot of people do that, but they are 2 different things. 2 as in two as in dos as in a pair. i know a lot of people do that but it's not true. the "militia" preamble make things quite clear. i don't believe any fucker has the "right" to go & own instruments of killing. he may have the right to free speech and habeas corpus and what not, but not this. he's not in a well-organized militia.
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