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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
No, murky IS bad. That's not MY definition, it is the definition. It has nothing to do with "personal taste", I'm all for noise or filth or muddiness or murk or whatever if the band wants that kind of sound -- however, it's obvious to me that this recording wasn't produced by the best hands, a fact probably even Sonic Youth themselves can attest to (the reissue does sound much better, by the way, and a few songs don't sound like crap -- "Dirty Boots" sounds amazing! But they really dropped the ball on the production of some of the songs; specifically "Mote" "My Friend Goo" and "Mary Christ")... I mean, it's like MBV's "Loveless"; man, for a band who puts so much emphasis on sound, it's sad that the drums sound so tinny... the drums deserve to be heard on that record; can we all agree on that? Then, you can see my point: if THIS album were better-produced, we could hear the instruments better, which would be swell! How can anyone listen to "Mary Christ" and think it's well-recorded? Give me a break. It's just common sense, it has nothing to do with personal taste... if you understand production at all, you'll know what I'm talking about. It's obvious! The point you're trying to make isn't about the facts -- since the fact is that it was poorly-recorded -- but about my opinion: My opinion is that the production never has nor ever will interfere with the songs (which are pretty good). But it's still a shame that the production isn't better.
But enough of that. I hate Bikini Kill. I hate Kathleen Hanna. And holy shit i'm rocking the song "Jet Ski" for an hour!
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I love Bikini Kill. Kathleen was always really cool to me, but that has no bearing on the fact I thought her band was great.
I also really like the way Loveless sounds. My tastes are often quite different from yours, and you've proved that over and over too. What you have failed to prove is that the way you feel about the sound of a given record is any more valid than the way I do. That can't be proven as it's aesthetics and not a matter of technical, er, chops. There are some records I love for big drum sounds and others I love for burrying the drums, really depends on a given intended aesthetic.
If there were truly a perfect technical formula for the perfectly produced music that everyone likes, then lo and behold there would only need to be one album. Oh sure, there could be different songs, but the recording would always be exactly the same. What an exciting world you wish for.