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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
unless you can do it as well as fursaxa or alexander tucker. i'm just sick of seeing it done shitily by everyone else. the difference being that i don't think fursaxa or tucker improvise (i'm talking about live shows), where as i think all those other people tend to improvise, effectively trying to compose something on the spot, which is nigh on impossible if you aren't some kind of genius, the structure of the music becomes really obvious, first one bit comes in, then another bit comes in, then another bit comes in, then one bit stops, then another bit stops, then they stop playing all together. it all sounds the same and is transparent in the fact that these people all are using a loop station to make up for the fact that they can't do anything interesting with any of the 20 instruments that they brought on stage to sample.
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To an extent you are pretty right, and it is true that there is way too much predictable pap doing the rounds both live and on record. The names you have mentioned are pretty spot on, but there are also people like Marclay or Jeck (to mention a couple of those deserving respect), who obvioulsy practice their craft before they go onstage or put records out. The problem with using all these loop machines, software etc is that there are countless people who simply start thinking that they got the job done WAY TOO QUICKLY, when they simply haven't learnt to master the recording process, let alone thinking of themselves as artists deserving to unleash music onto the world in general. This has lead to saturation point on the market for electronic music, as the tools got cheaper and cheaper and they get into the wrong hands on a daily basis. That caused the prolification of (horror) 'amateur sound people'
instead of 'musicians who use electronic means in order to create/compose'. A couple of weeks ago I went to this installation that had this guy pushing buttons on his laptop in a dark room, while what came out of the speakers was something that your La Monte Youngs or Tony Conrads have been pioneering with success for years. What struck me as being totally crap about it was the fact that the music was so synthetic and heartless that it completely missed aural qualities that a 'real' music instrument would have been able to produce in all its 'imperfect' glory. What I'm trying to say, to conclude, is that unless more and more musicians start bending electronics to their creative vision, if they really have any, this predictability of music created electronically (and non) will continue for years to come. Either you start seriously thinking of yourself as an artist, or all you will end putting out is countless amounts of tapes, cds, vinyl that have a few sound experiments that should heve been left to sleep on your hard drive. This is also a response to a post by atsonicpark that made my blood boil a few days ago.