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what do you say?
You can't say indie, because they'll think you listen to Modest Mouse, Arcade Fire, and the Strokes. And to some people indie doesn't even mean that, to some people 30 seconds to mars is indie.
You can't say alternative, because they'll think you listen to STP and Nickelback.
If you're big into Fugazi, Shellac, The Jesus Lizard and stuff, you can't say post-hardcore because they'll think you like screamo.
If you like early 80's gothic rock, you can't say that you like gothic rock because they'll think Manson and NIN and Evanescence.
You can't say post-punk, because there are a bunch of new bands that sound like lame Fugazi rip-offs calling themselves post-punk now.
I think the best word for the stuff we listen to is "underground artsy fartsy rock"
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