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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Absolutely. It's just that there comes a time when the whinging of someone who goes back to substances and has it large all the time, even when it's all too crystal clear to everyone and themselves that they're going nowhere, is to be met with: ''Get yourself fucking sorted or go away''. Drugs or alcohol are only good fun in certain circumstances, but they hardly pay dividends when it comes to being productive, unless you are blessed with a strong constitution and a personality to match. But that's rare, to say the least.

i agree for the most part, but if saying "get yourself fucking sorted or go away" really worked, then we'd have no street drunks in my town.

these sorts of addictions are an illness, you can't cure an illness that way.

what i mean is-- yes, you can say that, and it will work for you (the annoyed party) and the non-infirm audience, but for the afflicted it's a much more complicated matter, having to do with compulsive behavior and all sorts of psychological shit that's rarely understood on the interwebs.

now about the whinging-- this is a natural thing to do, best done with friends and relatives, but now that most people are friends of the internet, this is how it goes.