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I never said the Michigan noise scene was "good", I said that there's a huge noise scene there.
Also, look, define obscure however you want, but if a band like Animal Collective is on television and in feature articles in magazines and known by MILLIONS of people (and listened to by hundreds of thousands of people), I don't think that makes them obscure. Then again, some people on here think Sonic Youth are obscure. So, obviously, my definition of obscurity is different.
End of argument.
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