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I've never assumed that experimental music has to be harsh or absolutely never done before. Experimental music, to me, is discovering music for one's self. It's pretty retarded for the listening audience to call something experimental just because they haven't heard it before. The audience could have heard it before but that doesn't change the fact that the artist discovered the sound totally for his or her self. It appears to me that a lot of experimental fans get caught up with the novelty of something new instead of the different ways it can be applied. Gimmick lovers. Though Rather Ripped is not as radical as SY's early output, I can still hear their experimental results being born through their calmer sound which, to me, is still experimental. The foundations are their own creation, everything built upon it (no matter how accessible) still bares the premise.
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