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i used to be like that, hated the long songs.
when i first heard ddn, i was already very familiar with sy but a) the remixing/remastering on my dgc cd copy was awful, very slick and samey and b) most of the songs don't seem to be songs but jamming with attempts at songwriting on top of it, with the jamming not deciding whether they still want to be atonal noise explorers or rocking out without the "rock".
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