05.29.2006, 08:15 AM
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the end of the ugly
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: istanbul
Posts: 855
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Originally Posted by Glice
I'm fully on board with delicate use of offensive words. I deplore the 'I can use such and such a word, my best friend is [insert 'minority']' line, it just strikes me as cowardly and rubbish.
Laila, I'm astounded you haven't heard of Sufism, in whatever language. Every Muslim I know, even the most nominal of muslim (ie, drinks/ smokes, sex before marraige etc) knows about Sufism. It's related to a lot of the Persian (farci?) poetry that you really should read if you read that language. I don't, but the English translations are wonderful. I'm tempted to learn Persian because the poetry is quite lovely.
Atari, I think you should be careful saying that Sufism is the 'true' Islam. While I concur in that it is my preferred strand of Islam, one must be very careful making grand statements like that.
I'm also hesistant about your taking on Taoism - while you're correct in a lot of ways, being somewhat of a cultural relativist I often worry that the non-Taoist must be very careful talking about a metaphysical paradigm that is without of your own - ie, my assumption is that the metaphysical paradigm for your part of the world (America) is probably that of Christianity... better, the understanding of religion (which is what I mean by metaphysical paradigm) is usually defined by the dominant one of your culture. As a Catholic, I feel ill equipped to talk about other religions without making it very clear that my understanding of religion is always relative to the 'dogma' of my own.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Glice again.
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