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i like them. they seem like they were good. but this could never be a band i could love. it seems like they could never decide whether they wanted to be a ball to the wall fast as fuck heavy hardcore band like black fpag, or catchy as hell and melodic pop punk ala the descendents. they always sounded a little unsure of themselves, which therefore made them incapable of ever really rocking as hard as they should have.
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listen to pink reason
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