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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
the idea that, because we can never truly know everything, knowing what we know does not matter, is SUICIDAL and STUPID and WRONG.
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For the record, this is what I stated: So (based on the factual aspect of what I stated previously in the thread)...Should we not try? No, of course we should try. As we learn more and more, science will be advanced.
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Originally Posted by Rob
for centuries humans thought we would never understand what light was, and we now know probably 99% of what we can find out about light. For centuries humans thought that our solar system was the whole of existance, then we thought our galaxy was the whole of existance, but no, someone KEPT ASKING QUESTIONS, and we discovered that there are millions upon millions of galaxies just like ours, and millions extremely different from ours, and that only made us want to know more.
science, it's what's for dinner.
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You're mixing apples and oranges there. The advances of the last few centuries are fairly insignificant compared to the revolutionary aspects of Relativity which profoundly enhanced our intrinsic understanding of the universe.
And to echo my previous point for those that refuse to acknowledge the truth in what I write I'll once again repeat myself:
...But just as actual hard physics hasn't advanced all that much in the last almost century since Einstein's first breakthough (despite the vast amount of resources and brainpower devoted to the quest since), don't expect any ridiculously huge leaps.
It hasn't advanced all that much, Rob. Basically, what we have here is a group of remarkably intelligent astrophysicists that have been entirely unsuccessful for generations in expanding on the magnificent data that Einstein gave us all. They get massive grants to do all their work and still very little results from it. And when I write "very little" I mean very little in the way of actually expanding on Einstein to provide hard science on the subatomic microverse. Instead, they dwell in the realm of the highly dubious and come up with papers and theories that even their fellow scientists cannot possibly begin to disprove, because they are largely conjecture and gibberish, albeit highly intelligent gibberish. While being extraordinarily intelligent on the one hand they are also akin to a group of salesmen on the other. They are forever being told to come up with something concrete every time the money is handed out and so, like a salesman, they lament that they need new leads and a new product in order to perform at a higher level and provide the answers that the money is being doled out for...and so on and so forth the process gets repeated.
The astrophysicists are right, however, in the sense that what they do need to advance in a real way is more data. And the only way to get that data is to build a SUPER DUPER supercollider to get the particles accelerating to just a tiny bit closer to the speed of light. They are hoping that this will do the trick, you see. And they are right in the respect that it will inch us closer, but we still have loooooong way to go with what amounts to baby steps.
And one more time, for extra emphasis so as not to be spun into diametrically opposite bullshit by one Rob Instigator:
So (based on the factual aspect of what I stated previously in the thread)...Should we not try? No, of course we should try. As we learn more and more, science will be advanced.
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Originally Posted by Rob
people made the same criticisms of the hubble space telescope when it was first created and funded, and those IDIOTS were wrong.
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Of course the Hubble is a great advance. To get the lens outside of the atmosphere cannot be anything but a huge plus. Perhaps these IDIOTS you're referring to are part of the same crowd that are all jazzed over a gorilla suit or whatever thinking that it may just be the corpse of a Bigfoot creature. ZING!
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Originally Posted by Rob
enjoy yr ignorance!
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You certainly seem to get off on your ignorance. You've niched out a sort of hyper-optimistic Star Trek-is-the-future geeky fantasy that you hold fast to as some sort of proof that you are above reproach and absolutely correct.