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Old 06.05.2006, 04:52 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by atari 2600
Here we go again.

When do most people claim to see or hear ghosts?

Answer: When they are falling asleep or just wake up.
also, most ghost sightings occur after someone has lost a close friend or relative & their mind is still trying to cope with & process the information.

What they experience is a visual &/or auditory hallucination.

That makes the ghost real in that sense, because it is a manifestation of unconscious contents that we do not experience in our normal conscious waking state.
But in the sense of hollywood ghosts, no, that shit is not real. anyone who insists that ghosts are real is either
A)
in need of attention to the point where they are willing to be psychotic about it & embellish the truth...
or
B) someone who runs a tourist trap based on the place supposedly being haunted or some paranormal writer that trafficks in preying upon the ridiculous superstitions of the gullible.

Ghostbusters actually exist now since the fuckin' movie. They have no training & there is no science behind it. The meters these charlatans use to measure "paranormal activity" are only devices that measure electromagnetic activity. So anytime the meter gets near an electrical piece of equipment or an outlet it starts reading. By the way, one should try to avoid these electromagnetic fields. They cause cancer. Don't sleep with your body too close to an outlet. We spend a third of our life sleeping. Above all, don't use a heating pad for extended periods of time & never sleep with an electric blanket.


Mmmmmmeeerrrrrrrrghhh... yes. Some good points. Are we thereby dismissing the argument that in the hynogogic stage our perception is altered somewhat... possibly...inferring... that we see parts of 'reality' that are not present to the fully conscious.

I wanted to avoid the pseudo-acidhead thing... third eye/ pineal gland stuff... and there's 'science' in that statement... Feyerabend makes me happy... that empiricism may not answer all our questions.

I am convinced that, regardless of the validity or inferences of their claims, people who see ghosts/ believe in ghosts imbue 'ghosts' with a sense of reality... personally, I've had experiences, but I wouldn't like to suggest anything as a result of that... but there's nothing wrong with believing something to be true if it's in some way a comfort... in short, I think it's slightly disengenuous to be quite so dismissive.
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