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Ah, forgot about some of those. That reminds me... I don't like Bjork, but the album of vocal-only stuff is really innovative. I don't like Mike Patton, but lots of his stuff is innovative, though a lot of his better ideas are cribbed from John Zorn, which reminds me.. half the stuff released on Tzadik records is pretty damn innovative. I actually find a lot of William Basinski stuff innovative, even though it's essentially "just" ambient music (he often takes old decaying tapes and records him playing them until the loops completely decay; his "watermusic" album is based on random elements of looped notes that play in different times and make completely new loops as they go along). How about Tetuzi Akiyama or Marc Ribot or even Fred Frith's continued output? It's all essentially "guitar-based" music but they're still doing original things. Same goes for Derek Bailey's past-1990 output though it's steeped in jazz, it's probably unlike any guitarist you'll ever hear, and his technique actually changed a lot when he got carpal tunnel syndrome. And so on and so forth. Entire record labels are dedicated to exciting new sounds; Crucial Blast, Anticon (really, have you ever heard a group like Clouddead?), Raster-Norton, even some of the Ipecac and Skin Graft stuff. Etc.........
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