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Originally Posted by Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski
I see what you're saying. My thoughts are that women should be sexual and unrepressed, but sexuality shouldn't define the woman (or the man). Brains should. (And brains is not a snarky code word for breasts.)
I'm thinking she's referring to the likes of Kathleen Hannah, Courtney Love who (for two very different reasons in two very different cases for two very different types of women) stripped progressively. I don't see stripping or this lame ass burlesque fad progressing women at all.
Objectification as a weapon seems moronic because all they're doing is is getting some sort of comeuppance on men that are walking erections.
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Is that really what you think Poison Ivy or Eartha Kitt did? Objectification as a weapon allows one to be as sexy as one wants to whoever one wants, male, female or in between.
Mind, I'm married to a stripper at the moment, who has danced to Sonic Youth songs in the past. So I take exception when people, especially males (but not exclusively), act like she can't also be a feminist on her own terms. She's definitely doing it for money rather than to make a statement, but it is not devoid of any expression. While brains may not be the main reason people (and they aren't all men either) go into the club, it hasn't hurt her take home dollars to speak intelligently - actually quite the opposite.
As notyourfriend sums up, it's not really about "stripping progressively" so much as making your own decisions about how you wish to use your sexuality.
I also have a hard time with the whole idea that objectification is always such an evil thing. I've never had a lover who didn't in some way objectify me and want to have me do the same. People like to be told they are hot, and brains can be very much a part of what makes it that.
Objectification of a woman that makes her less than a man, of course that's bad. And yes there has been and continues to be plenty of that in our society. However, there is nothing wrong with an intelligent person of either gender wanting to be sexually hot, and if it isn't empowering for them, then I don't see how being told how to act by puritanical dogma would be.