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Originally Posted by lucyrulesok

£$%^&%$£%£$%£$%£$%£%, alot of my trip is based around visiting my crazy hick folks, so the worst places on the trip are to see them (i'm really immersing myself!), and i'm only going to vegas really to see the pyramids (haha) and the grand canyon.

i'm here at the mo, and i'm leaving new york the 20th september, so i've got a fair bit of ground to cover in that time.

you mention portland... anything of note there? i could easily stop for a day or so on my way south through oregon...

crazy hick folks! why would you wanna go elsewhere, then! imagine the documentaries that are possible...

vegas is ugly and has a horrible vibe, lots of human degradation, it can be depressing-- prostitution everywhere, broken down people, the bums of new york have a lot more soul.

but around vegas there is some amazing nature. i like the hoover dam which is not so humongous as i thought when i was a kid, but it's a relic of 30's socialistic tendencies and hence cool. grand canyon yeah, but go the north rim not the south rim-- south rim is where all the tourists flock, north is more nature.

portland: i know little of oregano but portland is famous for its music scene and good beer. actually gmku has connections there, ask him. there was this very awesome bordie, way back in the early 21st century, emma blowgun, who lived in portland. i would personally start here though: http://www.powells.com/

i am not clear about your route/itinerary-- you in nueva york now & on the 20th departing for hicksville & environs? which way? anyway, between arizona + tejas there is new mexico and i'd say go to santa fe + taos... then trinity site if you wanna see the place of the first nuke. boom. albuquerque is not that great to visit but it's ok to live-- has an airport.

what else, hmmm... i forget. explain your route & i might have some more things to suggest.

monument valley there is actually little to do but it looks cool, especially coming from yourope.