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Old 12.01.2009, 06:05 PM   #151
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Originally Posted by Glice
It's very easy to point to these statistics; and I'm not saying they're not true, but I would say that it wouldn't surprise me if the 'glass ceiling' of higher management/ entrepreneurship was enough to tilt the gender balance in wages generally.

i mean honestly it's not something which you can really quantify. things are always changing. if the glass has been pushed (in terms of equal pay for equal work and whatnot) that's great, but there are still countless other problems. there are shitloads of systems which are misogynistic. problems such as women making less money than men are the result of dualistic thinking - women historically being treated as a different class/entirety than men...femininity being associated with passivity and masculinity being associating with active strength etc.

the point i was more trying to make is that misogyny is totally infused everywhere and that human rights discourse tends to ignore women's rights a little bit. it's important to continue to actively think about issues of gender (and race, and class etc.) if you are to claim humanism. being a humanist should mean that you are an active feminist.

and to wellcharge - my professor told me those statistics (in 2008 i think...or maybe it was late 2007 but you get the drift) I'm not sure exactly where she got them from but she is extremely active in the international feminist movement (that's her field of expertise) so i trust her word. also, i enjoy a lot of rap music. i think that treating women like shit has nothing to do with making good beats. i respect rap artists which actual talent who don't resort to calling women bitches and hoes and putting them in bikinis to sell albums. real rappers dont need to do such juvenile crap.
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