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Old 05.26.2010, 01:02 PM   #1
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i don't really know much about it, except that its bullshit of course. but i found this INSANE interview with Lrons son from penthouse magazine.

read it... its completely insane. the kind of shit that makes me so happy to be off drugs hahaha.

a guy tried to recruit me once off the street outside a dianetics centre. i argued back at him and said i'd heard all this horrible shit about hubbard and how he was just a broke sci fi writer and made it all up, seemed to really upset the poor guy who was obviously at the bottom rung of the ladder paying these assholes loads of money to sort out his desperate problems. i felt sorry for him, he kept telling me "there are a lot of people out to destroy the church, don't believe everything you read, there are a lot of lies on the internet, just open your mind and give it a chance." poor fucker, he was genuinely hooked.

but shit. post war america was fucking crazy. you have PKD, who had his crazy moments but certainly seems to come off like a fucking ANGEL compared to hubbard. i read burroughs' writing on his expieriences with sceintology aswell, and he was highly critical.

at the same time, you have the instituionalised holocaust of pyschiatry with its lobotomies and electro shocks. and while thankfully some of the worst of that has stopped, today you still have pysch meds (don't work) and electroshock, confinement and isolation. i think we will look back on the 20th century as the dark ages. i think we are entering the beginning of a new enlightenment in understanding our brains and thus reality as percieved thru them. i've changed my mind on a LOT of things recently and i guess i've reconverted to modernity and technology again and am no longer stuck on a "its all fucked we need to go back to nature and live as one" kinda trip. i guess my thinking now is an attempt to take materialism to its extremes. like, self and concioussness are created by material reality, not the other way around. i couldn't explain it exactly, but fuck am i glad that i spend my time reading and aware there is so much more to learn, instead of taking drugs and falsely believing that you know everything! that's the worst type of torment, beleiving you really do know exactly what's going on.

there is something so horribly AMERICAN about scientology, i don't think we have fully let go of some of the mystic ideas that its founded on. like the kind of superman neitzchian crap about willing yourself into existance. and the whole enlightenment thru drugs and selfishness trip.

http://www.lermanet.com/scientologyn...rview-1983.htm

Inside The Church of Scientology: An Exclusive Interview with L. Ron Hubbard, Jr.

"Scientology and all the other cults are one-dimensional, and we live in a three-dimensional world. Cults are as dangerous as drugs. They commit the highest crime: the rape of the soul." L. Ron Hubbard Jr.


For more than twenty years L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., has been a man on the run. He has changed residences, occupations, and even his name in 1972 to Ron DeWolf to escape what he alleges to be the retribution and wrath of his father and his father's organization-- the Church of Scientology. His father, L. Ron Hubbard. Sr., founder and leader of Scientology, has been a figure of controversy and mystery, as has been his organization, for more than a generation. Its detractors have called it the "granddaddy" and the worst of all the religious cults that have sprung up over the last generation. Its advocates-- and there are thousands--swear that the church is the avenue for human perfection and happiness. Millions of words have been written for and against Scientology. Just what is the truth?

L. Ron Hubbard, Sr., and the very few who have worked at the highest echelons of the organization have never spoken publicly about the workings and finances of the Church of Scientology. Firsthand allegations about coercion, black-mail, and just how billions of dollars the organization is said to possess have been accrued and spent is lacking: that is, until very recently. In an extraordinary petition brought November 10, 1982, in Superior Court in Riverside, Calif., by L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., to prove that his father is dead and that his heirs should receive the tens of millions of dollars being dissipated from his estate, some of the mystery about Scientology has begun to unravel. Some of the details are shocking.


L. Ron Hubbard, Jr., is a survivor. His appearance on earth, May 7, 1934, was the result of failed abortion rituals by his father, and Ron, after only six and a half months in the womb and at 2.2 pounds entered the world. His mother, Margeret ("Polly") Grubb, was to have one more child, Catherine May, before her husband ditched her in 1946 to enter into a bigamous marnage with Sarah Northrup. A half sister, Alexis Valerie, survived that union. Soon after that, the founder of Scientology married Mary Sue Whipp, the current Mrs. L. Ron Hubbard, Sr., who at this writing is serving four years in federal prison for stealing government documents. There were four childrens: Diana and Quentin, who died under mysterious circumstances in 1976; Arthur, who has been missing for several years; and Suzette.


Ron Jr. says that he remembers much of his childhood. He claims to recall, at six years, a vivid scene of his father performing an abortion ritual on his mother with a coat hanger. He remembers that when he was ten years old, his father, in an attempt to get his son in tune with his black-magic worship, laced the young hubbard's bubble gum with phenobarbital. Drugs were an important part of Ron Jr.'s growing up, as his father believed that they were the best way to get closer to Satan --the Antichrist of black magic.



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