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ni'k · 06.02.2010, 07:09 PM

i know you will probably all just bitch at me for the crime of a long post but anyway.

you know what i, and i'm sure most women hear when they read this stuff?

something like:
blah blah blah self important fatuous males drone on because they are right about everything and everyone else is there to listen to their mighty proclamations.

if you all decided to shut up, and listen to women they might actually like you, and you might actually be able to spend time with them instead of trying to substitute angry wank fantasies and message board chauvinism for a power of the opposite sex that you just don't have. but no, only women have feelings, men are just robots who want sex right? don't let mommy see me cry right?

but i mean, it comes down to the whole shutting up part which i know is so terribly terribly hard when you are male. but if you were to actually do it, and then realise the stupid cliche of the man bored out of his mind while the woman yaps on is just that and precisely the kind of crap that keeps men alone and unattractive, and if you were to actually try to listen and show some empathy then you might actually get the pussy you so desperately crave because how the fuck any of you get it in real life i don't know, because the way some of you come on this board and act strongly hints that you don't get very much at alll and are massively compensating. i know you'll tell me otherwise but whatever, it's not believable. not everyone but some.

do you all think that when males act like sexist ego maniac dicks in front of women they actually suceed with them? no. women often make them feel like they do, and laugh about them behind their back while they use them. i've seen this all the time. all that alpha male crap is just that, crap. because they get a fuck and brag and go on and on about it does not mean they get much more sex. it nearly always means less. but we males have raging egos and passions and emotions just like women do. the key is to not allow these to ruin our chances with women. and you can't do that thru either a kind of ironic embracement of them or massive suppression. you can only do that through being honest with them, at least those are the only guys i ever see doing well with women. and by doing well i mean actually enjoying themselves and being in good relationships with. the guys (and i did this once) who try to put up this massive front out of anxiety to prove themselves to a girl never get very far. the guys who are more concerned with what their friends think about them than what their girlfriend thinks always have these problems.

but i feel very sorry for you straight dudes, you are being massively manipulated by your societies ideal of what a "real man" is supposed to be, and how he is supposed to behave, which is just something grotesque and
stupid. you are being sold the notion that you have this uncontrollable pyschotic lust for pussy, just sex, nothing else, that you have no self concioussness about your bodies, no emotions, no other needs, and you buy into it completely, because you think its some sort of amazing priveledge and enjoyment. you try really hard to prove yourselves (to other guys) that you can live up to these bullshit models and it fucks your heads up. understand that these are your own societies strict codes for who is supposed to breed and when. this is not something innate to your physical make up that you are supposed to have in order to be male. but you are shamed by each other to behave in certain ways and pretend that women are just property to you. you, in your straight white form may be the assholes lording it over and oppressing the rest of the world, but with great dickitude comes great lonelyness. ha.

a lot of you buy into this whole american pie, gross out movie version of what your sexuality is supposed to be. and then feel there is something wrong with you if you don't feel like those actors behave. this is just crap, that kind of thing exists in your society because capitalism needs you to reproduce at a certain age to make more workers. other societys breed at different times and in different enviroments and settings, they have their rituals and ways of pressurising.

what i also hate is this narrative you see of the awkward lonely loser guy who just REALLY REALLY wants to fuck some girl but messes up and can't talk to her properly. there was an episode of skins in the last series that did this. i felt so sorry for any straight dude watching that because it was a horrendous model to try to emulate. guys do not feel like that. i don't believe that there are any of us who are anything close to 70% straight their whole lives. to be sold this vision of lidido that is patently false and denys you any emotional need is a really fucked up thing. you straight guys need hugs and massages and people to listen to you and share empathy with you more than ANYONE else! tell me this isn't true? but you're constantly told its better to be a lonely pyscho harbouring violent control fantasies. i guess its because assholes can make a lot of money appealing to the worst kind of ideas about you.

i am a guy, and it is very easy for me to see when guys are acting like some caricature of maleness in order to cover up for their anxiety/emotional pain/lonelyness. girls can see this too. it doesn't really impress them, but you can always bet on one thing, those guys will always hide it from their male friends and make it look like they were just "sick of that bitchs shit" when in actual fact it was them who were the ones dumped for being a quivering emotional wreck. then you see guys who have maybe had less luck with the ladies thus far believing these stories and trying to emulate who they falsely think are the alpha males.

ok, maybe im not the best person to listen to on these things, but i really think if a guy wanted to be successful with women spending all day looking at porn and bragging on a board is not the best way to do it, and is only gonna warp their perception of themselves.

and ps.

the amount of images posted here is just nauseating

could you not all agree to keep them in the one thread and not post them anywhere else?

that's perfectly reasonable no? for the rest of us it gets sickening having to look thru them over and over and over. does not make readinng the board pleasant. if you could alll agree to keep them in the one thread that would be appreciated and show at least some degree of the chivalry you all profess to have for the ladies.

06.02.2010, 07:09 PM	#231
ni'k invito al cielo Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,360	i know you will probably all just bitch at me for the crime of a long post but anyway. you know what i, and i'm sure most women hear when they read this stuff? something like: blah blah blah self important fatuous males drone on because they are right about everything and everyone else is there to listen to their mighty proclamations. if you all decided to shut up, and listen to women they might actually like you, and you might actually be able to spend time with them instead of trying to substitute angry wank fantasies and message board chauvinism for a power of the opposite sex that you just don't have. but no, only women have feelings, men are just robots who want sex right? don't let mommy see me cry right? but i mean, it comes down to the whole shutting up part which i know is so terribly terribly hard when you are male. but if you were to actually do it, and then realise the stupid cliche of the man bored out of his mind while the woman yaps on is just that and precisely the kind of crap that keeps men alone and unattractive, and if you were to actually try to listen and show some empathy then you might actually get the pussy you so desperately crave because how the fuck any of you get it in real life i don't know, because the way some of you come on this board and act strongly hints that you don't get very much at alll and are massively compensating. i know you'll tell me otherwise but whatever, it's not believable. not everyone but some. do you all think that when males act like sexist ego maniac dicks in front of women they actually suceed with them? no. women often make them feel like they do, and laugh about them behind their back while they use them. i've seen this all the time. all that alpha male crap is just that, crap. because they get a fuck and brag and go on and on about it does not mean they get much more sex. it nearly always means less. but we males have raging egos and passions and emotions just like women do. the key is to not allow these to ruin our chances with women. and you can't do that thru either a kind of ironic embracement of them or massive suppression. you can only do that through being honest with them, at least those are the only guys i ever see doing well with women. and by doing well i mean actually enjoying themselves and being in good relationships with. the guys (and i did this once) who try to put up this massive front out of anxiety to prove themselves to a girl never get very far. the guys who are more concerned with what their friends think about them than what their girlfriend thinks always have these problems. but i feel very sorry for you straight dudes, you are being massively manipulated by your societies ideal of what a "real man" is supposed to be, and how he is supposed to behave, which is just something grotesque and stupid. you are being sold the notion that you have this uncontrollable pyschotic lust for pussy, just sex, nothing else, that you have no self concioussness about your bodies, no emotions, no other needs, and you buy into it completely, because you think its some sort of amazing priveledge and enjoyment. you try really hard to prove yourselves (to other guys) that you can live up to these bullshit models and it fucks your heads up. understand that these are your own societies strict codes for who is supposed to breed and when. this is not something innate to your physical make up that you are supposed to have in order to be male. but you are shamed by each other to behave in certain ways and pretend that women are just property to you. you, in your straight white form may be the assholes lording it over and oppressing the rest of the world, but with great dickitude comes great lonelyness. ha. a lot of you buy into this whole american pie, gross out movie version of what your sexuality is supposed to be. and then feel there is something wrong with you if you don't feel like those actors behave. this is just crap, that kind of thing exists in your society because capitalism needs you to reproduce at a certain age to make more workers. other societys breed at different times and in different enviroments and settings, they have their rituals and ways of pressurising. what i also hate is this narrative you see of the awkward lonely loser guy who just REALLY REALLY wants to fuck some girl but messes up and can't talk to her properly. there was an episode of skins in the last series that did this. i felt so sorry for any straight dude watching that because it was a horrendous model to try to emulate. guys do not feel like that. i don't believe that there are any of us who are anything close to 70% straight their whole lives. to be sold this vision of lidido that is patently false and denys you any emotional need is a really fucked up thing. you straight guys need hugs and massages and people to listen to you and share empathy with you more than ANYONE else! tell me this isn't true? but you're constantly told its better to be a lonely pyscho harbouring violent control fantasies. i guess its because assholes can make a lot of money appealing to the worst kind of ideas about you. i am a guy, and it is very easy for me to see when guys are acting like some caricature of maleness in order to cover up for their anxiety/emotional pain/lonelyness. girls can see this too. it doesn't really impress them, but you can always bet on one thing, those guys will always hide it from their male friends and make it look like they were just "sick of that bitchs shit" when in actual fact it was them who were the ones dumped for being a quivering emotional wreck. then you see guys who have maybe had less luck with the ladies thus far believing these stories and trying to emulate who they falsely think are the alpha males. ok, maybe im not the best person to listen to on these things, but i really think if a guy wanted to be successful with women spending all day looking at porn and bragging on a board is not the best way to do it, and is only gonna warp their perception of themselves. and ps. the amount of images posted here is just nauseating could you not all agree to keep them in the one thread and not post them anywhere else? that's perfectly reasonable no? for the rest of us it gets sickening having to look thru them over and over and over. does not make readinng the board pleasant. if you could alll agree to keep them in the one thread that would be appreciated and show at least some degree of the chivalry you all profess to have for the ladies.
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