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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Oracle is an amazing album. And yeah, System of a Down are "nu-metal"; just because you like a band doesn't mean they don't fall under "nu-metal"; it's the same exact formula! Tuned-to-mud-sharp, Ozzfestcore, guitarsololess (aside from "Soil"), shouty shit.
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true. but thats not system of a down, at least the s/t album. It has several solos and lead riffs all along the album, it is nothing like nu-metal sound, it does not have anything remotely hip hop to it. you're missing the key element to the formula, hip hop drum beats, which is what brings deftones towards nu-metal.
Just having a fierce edge does not make you nu-metal, you have to be the evolution of mid-90s rap-rock. generally, I think of nu-metal as an imitation of good mid-90s rap rock which RATM and deftones most definitely fall into, they being bands from that specific era. Rap rock is metal guitar with hip hop drum and bass, and even some rapping over screaming chorus vocals, and that is most definitely not nu-metal, and neither is that System of a Down, i'm telling you, they are classic metal/hardcore sound..