More info on the Framus guitar Thurston uses in Sugar Kane...

scott v · 03.26.2011, 12:11 PM

This is for Chris L to possibly update the gear guide, but some others may find this kinda interesting as there are some nice pics!... I Found this while perusing guitars on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/1965-FRAMUS-GOLD...item336282ff96

The guitar I suppose is actually an early to mid 60's Framus Golden Strato De Luxe Model # 5/168-54gl. looks to me the exact model Thurston uses in the Sugar Kane video. great pics in the auction, crazy mirrored switchplate and interesting pickguard. pretty expensive like most Framus guitars these days...
This is what else the seller says:

sunburst finish, solidbody,

sandwich construction
tremolo, muter
Rosewood fingerboard
2 PU, oval, gold
organ-effect
gold covers
built since ca. 1963

this particular instrument:

dates ca. 1965
model built until the mid 60s

Organ effect? weird i'm guessing its a built in fuzz effect, not too uncommon for non US type made electrics of this time period.

Jeremy · 03.26.2011, 01:42 PM

That is one sweet looking guitar, in my opinion....

Not too crazy about the organ effect though.

~Jeremy~

Chris Lawrence · 03.26.2011, 08:08 PM

i'd love to hear the organ effect!

very cool. i wonder where thurston got this for the shoot.

EVOLghost · 03.27.2011, 09:11 AM

Wow that is a beautiful body.

Ghostchase · 03.27.2011, 03:56 PM

I want! I'd buy it if I had the money. Framus never heard of them, but great looking guitar.

Kegmama · 03.27.2011, 05:43 PM

awesome lookn guitar. thx for sharing scott v

hirsute_biped · 03.27.2011, 05:43 PM

thats pretty... normally I don't like gold hardware, but that looks good with the tigerstripe celluloid pickguard, wild man, wild

love vintage weird off-brand guitars

guitar organs:
http://www.voxshowroom.com/us/guitar/guitar_organ.html
http://squeezyboy.blogs.com/squeezyt...-guitar-o.html

just re-watched the video for 1st time in a long time, hard to see the guitar, but i think your right

just found framus page:
http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules...lID=1520&cl=EN

scott v · 03.28.2011, 10:36 AM

nice find on the Framus Page...

the auctioned guitar looks to be some variant on this particular model as it only has 2 pickups (angled) and not 3 and not as many controls so i wonder if this particular guitar really has the built-in organ effect...

hirsute_biped · 03.28.2011, 11:04 PM

just for the hell of it, i sent the seller a question about that weird knob with the handle on it (closest to the pickups), i'm guessing it has something to do with the organ effect...

hirsute_biped · 05.13.2012, 03:16 PM

There are quite a few of these guitars with chrome hardware on ebay right now, including a 12 string:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1964...item19d0ca4219

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1960s-V...item27c4466345

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Fram...1687 2wt_1189

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Framus-...t_500w t_1204

Plus I found a video of a guy demonstrating the same "organ effect" on a different model Framus, and a bulletin board which explains that the effect is "a spring controlled lever for pannig the tone between the PU's". The Framus vintage archive I linked to before tantalizingly and perplexingly calls it a "half-mechanical organ effect". Not very organ-like to my ears based on this video demonstration, maybe more convincing with louder amp, effects,etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qed4KPvWIo

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...t-1956473.html

TMI perhaps? Very cool vintage Jazzmaster/Jaguar inspired guitars with their own thing going on.

Ghostchase · 05.13.2012, 03:59 PM

Wow. I'd buy the Red one for $999 for sure!

Lee is Free · 05.15.2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostchase

I want! I'd buy it if I had the money. Framus never heard of them, but great looking guitar.

Pretty much nobody in the USA had ever heard of Framus Guitars until John Lennon started playing one with The Beatles in the mid-late 60s. When we first came across this Framus that T used that was a reference point in it's favor...
--L

03.26.2011, 12:11 PM	#1
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	This is for Chris L to possibly update the gear guide, but some others may find this kinda interesting as there are some nice pics!... I Found this while perusing guitars on eBay... http://cgi.ebay.com/1965-FRAMUS-GOLD...item336282ff96 The guitar I suppose is actually an early to mid 60's Framus Golden Strato De Luxe Model # 5/168-54gl. looks to me the exact model Thurston uses in the Sugar Kane video. great pics in the auction, crazy mirrored switchplate and interesting pickguard. pretty expensive like most Framus guitars these days... This is what else the seller says: sunburst finish, solidbody, sandwich construction tremolo, muter Rosewood fingerboard 2 PU, oval, gold organ-effect gold covers built since ca. 1963 this particular instrument: dates ca. 1965 model built until the mid 60s Organ effect? weird i'm guessing its a built in fuzz effect, not too uncommon for non US type made electrics of this time period. __________________
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Jeremy 100% Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: The Batcave Posts: 833	That is one sweet looking guitar, in my opinion.... Not too crazy about the organ effect though. ~Jeremy~ __________________
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Ghostchase 100% Join Date: May 2010 Location: Western Decay Posts: 796	I want! I'd buy it if I had the money. Framus never heard of them, but great looking guitar.
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Kegmama empty page Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: So. Cal Posts: 0	awesome lookn guitar. thx for sharing scott v __________________ "Go forth.. GO FORTH & THRASH!"
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03.27.2011, 05:43 PM	#7
hirsute_biped the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manta Sonica, California Posts: 1,169	thats pretty... normally I don't like gold hardware, but that looks good with the tigerstripe celluloid pickguard, wild man, wild love vintage weird off-brand guitars guitar organs: http://www.voxshowroom.com/us/guitar/guitar_organ.html http://squeezyboy.blogs.com/squeezyt...-guitar-o.html just re-watched the video for 1st time in a long time, hard to see the guitar, but i think your right just found framus page: http://www.framus-vintage.de/modules...lID=1520&cl=EN
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03.28.2011, 10:36 AM	#8
scott v expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,484	nice find on the Framus Page... the auctioned guitar looks to be some variant on this particular model as it only has 2 pickups (angled) and not 3 and not as many controls so i wonder if this particular guitar really has the built-in organ effect... __________________
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03.28.2011, 11:04 PM	#9
hirsute_biped the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manta Sonica, California Posts: 1,169	just for the hell of it, i sent the seller a question about that weird knob with the handle on it (closest to the pickups), i'm guessing it has something to do with the organ effect...
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05.13.2012, 03:16 PM	#10
hirsute_biped the end of the ugly Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Manta Sonica, California Posts: 1,169	There are quite a few of these guitars with chrome hardware on ebay right now, including a 12 string: http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1964...item19d0ca4219 http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1960s-V...item27c4466345 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Fram...1687 2wt_1189 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Framus-...t_500w t_1204 Plus I found a video of a guy demonstrating the same "organ effect" on a different model Framus, and a bulletin board which explains that the effect is "a spring controlled lever for pannig the tone between the PU's". The Framus vintage archive I linked to before tantalizingly and perplexingly calls it a "half-mechanical organ effect". Not very organ-like to my ears based on this video demonstration, maybe more convincing with louder amp, effects,etc... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qed4KPvWIo http://acapella.harmony-central.com/...t-1956473.html TMI perhaps? Very cool vintage Jazzmaster/Jaguar inspired guitars with their own thing going on.
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05.13.2012, 03:59 PM	#11
Ghostchase 100% Join Date: May 2010 Location: Western Decay Posts: 796	Wow. I'd buy the Red one for $999 for sure!
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