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In terms of innovation in music, I think Cage is far ahead of Branca.
But in terms of stuff that I enjoy listening to, I prefer Branca, though I do enjoy Cage as well. |
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As far as the actual music goes, they are sort of like apples and oranges to me. Now compare Branca to somebody similar, say Chatham, and you have a more fair comparison of music.
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and i think the point is missed in 4'33 that he didnt notate silence, but instead he "forced " the audience to become performers and improvisers even if they didnt know that.
im going to listn to his concerto for piano and orchestra
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Cage's music does absolutely nothing for me.
Nice ideas though! |
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I had absolutely no idea that Cage felt like that about Branca but it sort of articulates my own reluctance to embrace Branca's music, which I too think has no place within an avant-garde that, as you say, after the War regarded his kind of enforcement of individual will as 'anathema'. I don't use the word 'fascist' for the sake of it, but in the case of Branca it makes absolute sense, at least within the context of how Cage was using it. |
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Well, yeah, his whole point was originally to show that there is never complete silence. Even in a recording of 4'33, there are little sounds here and there, like somebody coughs, breathing, or as Cage says, even a heartbeat is there, even if you think you can't hear it. The problem this has caused (and I guess you can't really blame Cage for this) is that a lot of people didn't get that point, and instead thought the point was that music didn't have to be what everybody thought it had to be, and it spawned a bunch of musicians who just tried to pull things out of the left field and created the "you-didn't-see-that-coming" genre.
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Branca and Cage are both great and unique composers but also artists with a personality full of super-ego mixed with a very "special" intellectual irony...so don't surprise me what he said...it's all about "Each Person is In Charge of Himself"
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