Butch Vig talks Dirty

Moshe · 06.26.2009, 08:46 PM

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-butch-vig/

atsonicpark · 06.26.2009, 08:50 PM

Talks dirty? I bet he likes to rub his bald head on a big nasty asshole.

Rob Instigator · 06.27.2009, 12:04 AM

thanks!

amerikangod · 06.27.2009, 12:06 AM

This thread title was misleading in regards to the number of erections I was expecting to get.

amerikangod · 06.27.2009, 12:07 AM

brb, gonna go watch 'Naked Lunch' and then stop off at Stoner's Pot Emporium to right things.

ZEROpumpkins · 06.27.2009, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Talks dirty? I bet he likes to rub his bald head on a big nasty asshole.

lol

FreshChops · 06.27.2009, 01:04 AM

Butch, butch, butch.....

"Dirty" was one of the most compressed albums I've ever heard..... but at the same time, most powerful and layered. Dirty has such a surreal and magical feel to it. I think only he could have put that touch on it. Sure, the songs are epic, but Butch did his thing on that one!

I always perk up when Butch has something to say!

pokkeherrie · 06.27.2009, 08:54 AM

That forum must be a walhalla for gear nerds:

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Siket

The exact set-up was as follows: Neve 8040/1081's, AKGD12 on bassdrumm, SM57 on snare, C12A's on toms, C24 on OH's, U47's and 77DX's on gtrs, RE20 on bass. Everyone was in Sear's small Studio A. There were gobo's. Steve the drummer was the only one wearing phones. The tapemachine was an Ampex MM1200/16track with 499 at 15ips NNR. Kim's vocal was an M49 thru some kind of early Manley tube-pre.

barnaclelapse · 06.27.2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amerikangod

brb, gonna go watch 'Naked Lunch' and then stop off at Stoner's Pot Emporium to right things.

So...pretty much what you do every single day, right?

Dead-Air · 06.27.2009, 11:07 AM

The board owner there put EJT&NS on Butch's discography instead of Dirty.

You'd think he'd get called on that pretty quick. Which thread talks specifically about Dirty? There's quite a few and I'm not interested beyond that, so I don't want to wade through them all.

pokkeherrie · 06.27.2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air

The board owner there put EJT&NS on Butch's discography instead of Dirty.

Both Dirty and EJST&NS were produced by him.

greedrex · 06.27.2009, 01:34 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Shadow

Hi Butch,

thanks for doing this and my sincerest compliments on your impressive body of work.

I would like to ask you about your production of Sonic Youth's 'Dirty', the now classic 1992 album that gained them a lot of new fans, including me.

I can imagine the band (and specifically Lee Ranaldo and Thurston Moore) having some very strong ideas about music production, and I wondered how you were able to find the middle ground between their experimental aesthetic and your result-oriented work methods that led to the full-bodied sound of 'Dirty'.

I recorded Dirty at the Magic Shop in NYC, it has a great old broadcast Neve console.
I must admit, i was a bit intimidated when I first went to meet the band in NYC. I had seen them live before and really admired their approach to music, and for some reason I thought they were going to be all snobby and arty...but in fact they completely disarmed me with their humour and wit. I went straight to Thurston and Kim's appartment on the lower east side, and when I walked in the door, Thurston yelled "we need to make the album sound like THIS"...and played a 7" single I had recorded by a band from the Twin Cities, Mecht Mensch! It sounded like crap!!!
I was completely blown that he had such an obscure single, as well as almost every other obscure band I had ever produced!

When we started recording, my goal was to capture the sound of Sonic Youth with a bit more 3D, full spectrum glory, yet still retain the quality of what makes them unique. We tracked all the songs live, then went back and overdubbed a lot of the guitar parts, so i could spend more time with them on the sound and performance.
It's probably the most "produced" album they ever made, but still sounds like the Sonics.
I LOVE some of the songs: Sugarkane, 100%, Youth Against Fascism.
And Teresa's Soundworld...I remember he night we recorded that song, the hair on the back of my neck went up in the middle of the take, it sounded so greatl...and I remember thinking man oh man do I have the coolest job in the world!

Dead-Air · 06.27.2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokkeherrie

Both Dirty and EJST&NS were produced by him.

Oh shit, you're totally right. I don't know why I forgot that. Though the band was also credited and I think took a lot more control from him than they did on Dirty. But they were credited on that too.

SonicBebs · 06.27.2009, 03:17 PM

what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?

Dead-Air · 06.27.2009, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicBebs

what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?

A whole lotta Killdozer records which is why Nirvana wanted him. Ironically, after Nevermind they couldn't afford to use him anymore...

Seandi · 06.27.2009, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicBebs

what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?

Tar Babies and almost anyone else from Madison, WI that didn't suck too badly at that time.

automatic bzooty · 06.27.2009, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokkeherrie

That forum must be a walhalla for gear nerds:

Hahaha, truth.

The only bits of that I understood are "gtrs," "bass," "Kim's vocal," 'n' "Steve." Also, that they may be reffering to Sear Sound... maybe.

06.26.2009, 08:46 PM	#1
Moshe Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,894	http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-butch-vig/
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.26.2009, 08:50 PM	#2
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Talks dirty? I bet he likes to rub his bald head on a big nasty asshole. __________________
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 12:04 AM	#3
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	thanks! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 12:06 AM	#4
amerikangod invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,761	This thread title was misleading in regards to the number of erections I was expecting to get. __________________
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 12:07 AM	#5
amerikangod invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,761	brb, gonna go watch 'Naked Lunch' and then stop off at Stoner's Pot Emporium to right things. __________________
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 01:04 AM	#7
FreshChops 100% Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 738	Butch, butch, butch..... "Dirty" was one of the most compressed albums I've ever heard..... but at the same time, most powerful and layered. Dirty has such a surreal and magical feel to it. I think only he could have put that touch on it. Sure, the songs are epic, but Butch did his thing on that one! I always perk up when Butch has something to say!
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 11:07 AM	#10
Dead-Air invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portland OR Posts: 4,300	The board owner there put EJT&NS on Butch's discography instead of Dirty. You'd think he'd get called on that pretty quick. Which thread talks specifically about Dirty? There's quite a few and I'm not interested beyond that, so I don't want to wade through them all. __________________ FuckBook; My Band; My Radio Show; My Flickr Page; Science Fiction Message Board
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 01:34 PM	#12
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	Quote: Originally Posted by Black Shadow Hi Butch, thanks for doing this and my sincerest compliments on your impressive body of work. I would like to ask you about your production of Sonic Youth's 'Dirty', the now classic 1992 album that gained them a lot of new fans, including me. I can imagine the band (and specifically Lee Ranaldo and Thurston Moore) having some very strong ideas about music production, and I wondered how you were able to find the middle ground between their experimental aesthetic and your result-oriented work methods that led to the full-bodied sound of 'Dirty'. I recorded Dirty at the Magic Shop in NYC, it has a great old broadcast Neve console. I must admit, i was a bit intimidated when I first went to meet the band in NYC. I had seen them live before and really admired their approach to music, and for some reason I thought they were going to be all snobby and arty...but in fact they completely disarmed me with their humour and wit. I went straight to Thurston and Kim's appartment on the lower east side, and when I walked in the door, Thurston yelled "we need to make the album sound like THIS"...and played a 7" single I had recorded by a band from the Twin Cities, Mecht Mensch! It sounded like crap!!! I was completely blown that he had such an obscure single, as well as almost every other obscure band I had ever produced! When we started recording, my goal was to capture the sound of Sonic Youth with a bit more 3D, full spectrum glory, yet still retain the quality of what makes them unique. We tracked all the songs live, then went back and overdubbed a lot of the guitar parts, so i could spend more time with them on the sound and performance. It's probably the most "produced" album they ever made, but still sounds like the Sonics. I LOVE some of the songs: Sugarkane, 100%, Youth Against Fascism. And Teresa's Soundworld...I remember he night we recorded that song, the hair on the back of my neck went up in the middle of the take, it sounded so greatl...and I remember thinking man oh man do I have the coolest job in the world! __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|

06.27.2009, 03:17 PM	#14
SonicBebs expwy. to yr skull Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,680	what did he produce before dirty and nevermind?
	\|QUOTE AND REPLY\|