how many rad guitar solos does J.Mascis pop on average per day? - Page 2

Rob Instigator · 06.29.2007, 12:55 PM

J mascis is the alpha and the omega
he is the king of kings, the lord of hosts
he is the third coming of the second coming.
J mascis is Slack personified
and if you do not know about Slack
read your subgenius
discordian god
oh send me your guitar wankery
your grey hair, indie rock's Gandalf
leading all of us hobbits through chappel perilous.
J mascis is to all things what he is to all people
he can make the sunshine grow
but he is NOT the one who makes the grass green.
YOU are.
J Mascis is everything we all want to be and he does not CARE!

k-krack · 06.29.2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

i don't really understand what makes a "good" guitar solo? i mean, maybe i do... when i listen to necrophagist, i am like "oh that solo is really melodic but complex. good solo!" i mean, most death metal bands have killed solos. but then i hear j's solos get praised and i'm like "hmm.."

certainly, a lot of j's are tolerable, but... i dunno. i never really "got" long solos. and i probably couldn't differentiate a "good" solo from a "bad" solo, because any solo that goes over 30 seconds is probably bad.

so yeah. i dunno.

i just usually hate guitar solos.. especially greg ginn's and the slayer dudes'.

I'm the same way, I don't like solos except for a few hardcore solos, Greg Ginn included, as well as some like, little stun solos and shit in Minor Threat and stuff... but for some reason, I dig a couple of J's solos. Some just feel tacked on, however... Every one in a few is cool, though.

Rob Instigator · 06.29.2007, 01:59 PM

you people have to stop thinking of guitar "solos" as some sort of separate added on thing. that is only the case with shitty fuckers. a solo of any type is just a part in a song where ONE instrument carries the melody for a while instead of the voice or the whole group.

the guitar supplanted the piano which supplanted the saxophone in rock n roll. The sax was first and rock songs always had a stomping sax solo, then the piano became the forefront member, and piano solos would make you dance and jumop and shout and freak. Once the guitar became the entrenched instrument de rigeur for rock n roll the guitar solo was the main event.
punk music began to get rid of the guitar solo, not because guitar solos suck per se, but because they had come to symbolize everything that was bloated and decadent andstupid in big time arena/AOR rock of the time. hardcore punk took it even further. The problem was that punk, and hardcore in particular are such constricting musical idioms that they quickly became boring. people like j mascis and Doug marscht who LOVED the guitar and who could play the fuck out of the guitar told the goddamn punk and college rock stalwarts to shove it up their asses because they were going to play solos and they were going to do it in a way that made everyone shut the fuck up about it.

the second half of MOTE is essentially a guitar "solo"
most of sonic youth's skironk breaks are guitar "solos"

J!

Toxa · 06.29.2007, 03:01 PM

I can't imagine how many solos he's got in his head... amazing musician.

luxinterior · 06.29.2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

J mascis is the alpha and the omega
he is the king of kings, the lord of hosts
he is the third coming of the second coming.
J mascis is Slack personified
and if you do not know about Slack
read your subgenius
discordian god
oh send me your guitar wankery
your grey hair, indie rock's Gandalf
leading all of us hobbits through chappel perilous.
J mascis is to all things what he is to all people
he can make the sunshine grow
but he is NOT the one who makes the grass green.
YOU are.
J Mascis is everything we all want to be and he does not CARE!

I really do not like him.

nicfit · 06.29.2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior

I really do not like him.

Neither do I, actually, but it's ok with me. what?

king_buzzo · 06.29.2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

J mascis is the alpha and the omega
he is the king of kings, the lord of hosts
he is the third coming of the second coming.
J mascis is Slack personified
and if you do not know about Slack
read your subgenius
discordian god
oh send me your guitar wankery
your grey hair, indie rock's Gandalf
leading all of us hobbits through chappel perilous.
J mascis is to all things what he is to all people
he can make the sunshine grow
but he is NOT the one who makes the grass green.
YOU are.
J Mascis is everything we all want to be and he does not CARE!

thats genious.

who cares if you dont like him, you dont have to point it out every time a J Mascis thread comes up.

nicfit · 06.29.2007, 04:48 PM

That's why I said "it's ok with me".

king_buzzo · 06.29.2007, 04:49 PM

okay, okay...

Rob Instigator · 06.29.2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior

I really do not like him.

that's cool. Knowing J, he honestly could give two shits whether anyone likes him or not.
I love the man, and he could care less.

that is why i love him so...

king_buzzo · 06.29.2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

that's cool. Knowing J, he honestly could give two shits whether anyone likes him or not.
I love the man, and he could care less.

that is why i love him so...

exactly, he doesnt give a flying shit about what you or anyone else thinks. But he's a loving person, he doesnt hate hate anyone due to worshipping Amma.

pbradley · 06.29.2007, 06:50 PM

I dig Mascis and he's written a lot of my favorite music but you guys are sounding a little psycho with the overboard love. Usually I find it a disservice to idolize people. Kill Yr Idols, anyone?

Basically fan worship is the lamest, most pathetic form of flattery.

m^a(t)h · 06.29.2007, 07:16 PM

i hate j. mascis, i hate guitar solos

06.29.2007, 12:55 PM	#21
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06.29.2007, 01:59 PM	#23
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	you people have to stop thinking of guitar "solos" as some sort of separate added on thing. that is only the case with shitty fuckers. a solo of any type is just a part in a song where ONE instrument carries the melody for a while instead of the voice or the whole group. the guitar supplanted the piano which supplanted the saxophone in rock n roll. The sax was first and rock songs always had a stomping sax solo, then the piano became the forefront member, and piano solos would make you dance and jumop and shout and freak. Once the guitar became the entrenched instrument de rigeur for rock n roll the guitar solo was the main event. punk music began to get rid of the guitar solo, not because guitar solos suck per se, but because they had come to symbolize everything that was bloated and decadent andstupid in big time arena/AOR rock of the time. hardcore punk took it even further. The problem was that punk, and hardcore in particular are such constricting musical idioms that they quickly became boring. people like j mascis and Doug marscht who LOVED the guitar and who could play the fuck out of the guitar told the goddamn punk and college rock stalwarts to shove it up their asses because they were going to play solos and they were going to do it in a way that made everyone shut the fuck up about it. the second half of MOTE is essentially a guitar "solo" most of sonic youth's skironk breaks are guitar "solos" J! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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06.29.2007, 03:01 PM	#24
Toxa 100% Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evil Empire Posts: 847	I can't imagine how many solos he's got in his head... amazing musician.
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06.29.2007, 04:48 PM	#28
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	That's why I said "it's ok with me". __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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06.29.2007, 04:49 PM	#29
king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	okay, okay...
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06.29.2007, 06:50 PM	#32
pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	I dig Mascis and he's written a lot of my favorite music but you guys are sounding a little psycho with the overboard love. Usually I find it a disservice to idolize people. Kill Yr Idols, anyone? Basically fan worship is the lamest, most pathetic form of flattery.
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06.29.2007, 07:16 PM	#33
m^a(t)h expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,204	i hate j. mascis, i hate guitar solos
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