Mac people - Page 2

atari 2600 · 04.09.2008, 06:10 PM

http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008.../charlie_rose/

✌➬ · 04.09.2008, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LittlePuppetBoy

For some reason, one of my brother's friends hates Macs. He loves Dells

Your brother is friend with this guy?

tw2113 · 04.10.2008, 01:11 AM

I'm reading this while I reinstall Fedora 8 Linux on my laptop.

Norma J · 04.10.2008, 01:46 AM

I'm purchasing a Macbook within the next few days. I'm very excited. Design design design.

ZEROpumpkins · 04.10.2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Kloriel

How do Mac people turn wav files into mp3s?

1. Buy a PC
2. Throw out your Mac
3. Hollow it out to make a nice little home for a stray cat

THAT'S how you do something useful with a Mac.

Norma J · 04.10.2008, 02:11 AM

The war between mac and pc is boring and always makes me wonder why people care so much about something that is quite irrelevant.

!@#$%! · 04.10.2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

1. Buy a PC
2. Throw out your Mac
3. Hollow it out to make a nice little home for a stray cat

THAT'S how you do something useful with a Mac.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

yes.

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i have a mac on the way (it's free, don't ask) and i'm dreading the day when i'll have to use it. piece of silver shit. im so used to xp it's transparent. and everything works, all the time. ah, and the 2-button+wheel mouse.

ZEROpumpkins · 04.10.2008, 02:31 AM

I agree man. People slag off Windows like it has to be perfect or it's shit. I'd rather be able to do way more things with a PC than have fewer crashes and viruses with Macs.

!@#$%! · 04.10.2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

I agree man. People slag off Windows like it has to be perfect or it's shit. I'd rather be able to do way more things with a PC than have fewer crashes and viruses with Macs.

who the fuck gets viruses? morons do. they deserve it. for fucks sakes. my pc NEVER crashes. my thinkpad NEVER crashes. i had crap computers before that ran windows and yeah fuck-- when i ran an overclocked duron cpu with cheapo ram you bet your ass it crashed and often.

i bet a lot of macbitches deny ever seeing this:

FNORD FNORD FNORD FNORD FNORD FNORD FNORD FNORD FNORD

but it happens! a lot! i can see the fnords.

i do dread vista though, i confess. seems too fucking intrusive. but osx makes people stupid. i need linux.

ZEROpumpkins · 04.10.2008, 02:40 AM

You might like this post I found on urbandictionary.com then

The 10 reasons that Apple must think is imperative for making the change from a PC to a MAC can be found on their website. Of course if you have the time to read through all of them you realise that these 10 features or reasons have been standard with the PC a long, long, long time. Some of the reasons are just plain myths that Apple invented. Probably because they ran out of fabricated facts.

So take the journey through the 10 commandments of a mac-enthusiast and enjoy their naive attitude towards personal computing.

1. The Mac... It just works

This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that all people that own macs are really satisfied with their computers and would never switch back. This is ofcourse not true.
The mac owner will also tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many macs can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years.
Apple also states: "Only with a Mac do you get an operating system built by the same people who built the computer it runs on.". Actually Apple's Mac OS X (the operating system) is not based on their own technology, but by the technology of freeBSD. Apple's own capabilities in form of creating an operating system have been demonstrated in previous versions of Mac OS. It took an operating system based on someone else's technology to get a Mac multitasking and not behaving like an oversized pocket calculator from 1985.

2. It doesn't crash

Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. Why else would Apple themselves run their india website on RedHat Linux?
There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then!

3. Simply the best in digital music

This point is actually based on Apple's iPod. I must admit, the iPod is not an ugly creation. I'll give Apple credit for that. But as always, they exaggerate the benefits of their product. Apple was far from first with creating a portable mp3-player with a built in harddrive but on the other side they do offer the most expensive solution.
The iPod is about 40-60% more expensive than technologically equal products. Keep in mind also that it offers no recording option and no belt clip. Two very crucial benefits a portable mp3-player should have.

4. The missing link in digital photography

It's amazing! Apple has invented a program called iPhotos that will revolutionize the way we look at digital photos. Hear what they have to say: "Simply drag your mouse, and iPhoto magically grows or shrinks your photo thumbnails. So you can view individual shots in detail or see hundreds of photos on the screen at once...".
Maybe mac users are new to digital photos on the computer but on the pc we have a huge variety of freeware that does the job of iPhoto and more, to choose from. So when Apple says that they are "the missing link in digital photography" maybe what they meant was that iPhoto is the missing link of the Mac.
Windows users reached that stage of evolution ages ago.

5. Your own digital entertainment center

It seems that Apple thinks that they've revolutionized computing by developing mediocre software for viewing digital photos, editing video, burning CDs and DVDs and listening to music. Well they haven't!

6. Goes everywhere you go

You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions:

* Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery?
— Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the world.
* Can you put the system to sleep just by closing the lid?
— Oh my god, a Mac can do that? Well, so can a PC!
* Does it wake up instantly?
—Duh!
* Can your PC laptop automatically switch between Ethernet,
dial-up and wireless connections on the fly?
—Without a doubt!
* Without a restart?
Is this a joke? This really proves that Apple has no clue on what their competitors are doing. If they never have used a PC running Windows it makes their tests and objective sayings about the Mac really credible. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic.

7. It's built for the internet

Apple makes a huge point about the easability of configuring an internet connection on a mac. All new Windows versions come with just as easy to use guides for connecting to the internet with modem, lan or anything else. They also brag about such obvious tools of communication like email, favorites and contacts. Yes Apple, this is really new and hot stuff, you are indeed innovative. Or maybe not.
The worst part might be that they lie about their under average video-plugin Quicktime. This might be one of the worst programs ever to install. Actually if some students at a university needed an example of a really poorly written program, this would be a perfect opportunity for Quicktime to step into the limelight.

8. Office is Office, and then some

Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac:

"The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know"

Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence:

"And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts"

As you might expect they mention nothing on what these features are. Well they're probably just wonderfully, perfectly and amazingly non-existent!

9. Works effortlessly with PCs

Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel.

"Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs."

They also reveal amazing means of medias you can use on your mac:

..."you can also swap files via data CD, floppies or Zip disks."

10. It's beautiful

Apple emphasises that all their products are masterpieces of design. Their problem is that their focus on design hinders them from creating ergonomical and practical machines. If you have ever used the small round iMac mouse you have probably too suffered from aches in arm and hand.

"...ergonomic products that are the toast of the design world..."

It wasn't I who brought up the word toast into the debate. On the other hand it was I who drew the paralell to machines looking like plain household machines. Who wants a computer that looks like a remnant from the 70's? You could probably achieve the same state of hallucination that you could by inhaling large amounts of heavy drugs.

So what have we learned from these 10 points that Apple provides for the potential buyer. We have learned that Apple likes to tell their future customers that the mac is built on technology they probably already are using on their PCs. They also lure the extremely naive buyers with words like internet, word-processing and cd-burning.

Please do not be fooled. You have nothing to gain by switching to a Mac. Apple has proved it on their own, with a little help from us.

!@#$%! · 04.10.2008, 02:46 AM

that was a funny read. some a bit asinine but you gotta give extra points for enthusiasm.

terminal pharmacy · 04.10.2008, 09:37 AM

i must say macbooks suck, even though i am a mac user... macbooks suck, i dont know anyone who hasnt had problems with them just in the general construction of the case.... i was thhinking about updating my powerbook to a pro but i decide against it. i just maxed out my ram instead. when reason 4 and DP5 no longer work i will upgrade to something but no necessarily a mac.... i dont care as long as it is a solid machine

!@#$%! · 04.10.2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

i must say macbooks suck, even though i am a mac user... macbooks suck, i dont know anyone who hasnt had problems with them just in the general construction of the case.... i was thhinking about updating my powerbook to a pro but i decide against it. i just maxed out my ram instead. when reason 4 and DP5 no longer work i will upgrade to something but no necessarily a mac.... i dont care as long as it is a solid machine

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well, allow me to recommend a thinkpad t series-- great mobile workstation. they are built like a tank, they are solid, they are virtually unbreakable, and you pay a premium for them vs. other brands with the similar features, but it's worth it.

yes, they are no longer made by ibm, they sold that to lenovo in china, but they are still solid and i bet you 99% of it was made in china anyway, as is anything else. i know a place where you can buy them refurbished in the u.s., not sure in australia.

also the dell precisions... any kind of business-class dell--are supposed to be good.

consumer laptops are all generally crap, no matter who makes them. stick to business laptops if you want quality.

Tokolosh · 04.10.2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by terminal pharmacy

i must say macbooks suck, even though i am a mac user... macbooks suck, i dont know anyone who hasnt had problems with them just in the general construction of the case.... i was thhinking about updating my powerbook to a pro but i decide against it. i just maxed out my ram instead. when reason 4 and DP5 no longer work i will upgrade to something but no necessarily a mac.... i dont care as long as it is a solid machine

I'm not too keen on them either. Things haven't been the same since intel put their dirty paws on them.

!@#$%! · 04.10.2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh

I'm not too keen on them either. Things haven't been the same since intel put their dirty paws on them.

cracks me up to hear you blame intel for apple's business decision.

█████████ · 04.10.2008, 10:24 AM

haha i'm not switching anything or stop using other os's i'm starting to use one more.

i need one of those machines and bullet proof or not i like the macbook pro so i''ll soon hunt down a nice low cost refurbished one.

hopefully in a few years i'll be developing software that runs on macs too.

and yeah i hate some pompous mac people, fuck them all.

!@#$%! · 04.10.2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by █████████

haha i'm not switching anything or stop using other os's i'm starting to use one more.

i need one of those machines and bullet proof or not i like the macbook pro so i''ll soon hunt down a nice low cost refurbished one.

hopefully in a few years i'll be developing software that runs on macs too.

and yeah i hate some pompous mac people, fuck them all.

i know you buy in europe, but if you come to the u.s. or can have someone send you, here they sell refurbished macs

http://www.laptopbroker.com/apple/

gotta go have a nice day.

Tokolosh · 04.10.2008, 10:27 AM

The thought of you having to sit up straight in bed because your screen keeps flopping over, cracks me up.

Yeah, Apple is definitely to blame for going on a venture with Intel.

█████████ · 04.10.2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i know you buy in europe, but if you come to the u.s. or can have someone send you, here they sell refurbished macs

http://www.laptopbroker.com/apple/

gotta go have a nice day.

thanks, but i want to get one with a portuguese keyboard and i know where to get them locally.
have a nice day.

floatingslowly · 04.10.2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by █████████

i'm getting one.

oh, hahahahahahaha

ha ha ha

haha
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ha ha

hah!

04.09.2008, 06:10 PM	#21
atari 2600 invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,212	http://machinist.salon.com/blog/2008.../charlie_rose/
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04.10.2008, 01:11 AM	#23
tw2113 expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,148	I'm reading this while I reinstall Fedora 8 Linux on my laptop. __________________ Shake shake
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04.10.2008, 01:46 AM	#24
Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	I'm purchasing a Macbook within the next few days. I'm very excited. Design design design. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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04.10.2008, 02:11 AM	#26
Norma J invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orstralia Posts: 4,917	The war between mac and pc is boring and always makes me wonder why people care so much about something that is quite irrelevant. __________________ I want girls with new-wave hair-doos
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04.10.2008, 02:31 AM	#28
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	I agree man. People slag off Windows like it has to be perfect or it's shit. I'd rather be able to do way more things with a PC than have fewer crashes and viruses with Macs. __________________
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04.10.2008, 02:40 AM	#30
ZEROpumpkins invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,157	You might like this post I found on urbandictionary.com then The 10 reasons that Apple must think is imperative for making the change from a PC to a MAC can be found on their website. Of course if you have the time to read through all of them you realise that these 10 features or reasons have been standard with the PC a long, long, long time. Some of the reasons are just plain myths that Apple invented. Probably because they ran out of fabricated facts. So take the journey through the 10 commandments of a mac-enthusiast and enjoy their naive attitude towards personal computing. 1. The Mac... It just works This is maybe the ultimate reason a mac owner will give you to explain why it's superior to a PC. The mac owner will tell you that all people that own macs are really satisfied with their computers and would never switch back. This is ofcourse not true. The mac owner will also tell you that with a system from Apple you will never have to think about drivers, upgrades or anything. A mac is perfection itself when delivered. Atleast according to their standard. Many macs can't even be upgraded. So what you buy is what you get. Expect your system to be outdated within 1-2 years. Apple also states: "Only with a Mac do you get an operating system built by the same people who built the computer it runs on.". Actually Apple's Mac OS X (the operating system) is not based on their own technology, but by the technology of freeBSD. Apple's own capabilities in form of creating an operating system have been demonstrated in previous versions of Mac OS. It took an operating system based on someone else's technology to get a Mac multitasking and not behaving like an oversized pocket calculator from 1985. 2. It doesn't crash Yes it does! And it does it alot. The difference between a pc based on Windows crashing and a Mac is that on the pc the crash is in 99% of the cases caused by badly coded third party software, when the Mac just has a faulty operating system. Why else would Apple themselves run their india website on RedHat Linux? There is another fun part about crashes on the mac, it's almost always impossible to trace the source of the crash. When your mac crashes you simply reinstall the system. Sounds like a fun thing to do on your spare time, well buy a Mac then! 3. Simply the best in digital music This point is actually based on Apple's iPod. I must admit, the iPod is not an ugly creation. I'll give Apple credit for that. But as always, they exaggerate the benefits of their product. Apple was far from first with creating a portable mp3-player with a built in harddrive but on the other side they do offer the most expensive solution. The iPod is about 40-60% more expensive than technologically equal products. Keep in mind also that it offers no recording option and no belt clip. Two very crucial benefits a portable mp3-player should have. 4. The missing link in digital photography It's amazing! Apple has invented a program called iPhotos that will revolutionize the way we look at digital photos. Hear what they have to say: "Simply drag your mouse, and iPhoto magically grows or shrinks your photo thumbnails. So you can view individual shots in detail or see hundreds of photos on the screen at once...". Maybe mac users are new to digital photos on the computer but on the pc we have a huge variety of freeware that does the job of iPhoto and more, to choose from. So when Apple says that they are "the missing link in digital photography" maybe what they meant was that iPhoto is the missing link of the Mac. Windows users reached that stage of evolution ages ago. 5. Your own digital entertainment center It seems that Apple thinks that they've revolutionized computing by developing mediocre software for viewing digital photos, editing video, burning CDs and DVDs and listening to music. Well they haven't! 6. Goes everywhere you go You better sit down for this one, hold on to your seat and embrace yourself for some cutting edge news from Apple... they've invented the laptop, eureka! Not only that, they think they've made it superior to other laptops. Let's look at why and also try to answer their questions: * Can your PC laptop go coast to coast with just one battery? — Ofcourse. And if it only needs the performance of the Mac it could probably go around the world. * Can you put the system to sleep just by closing the lid? — Oh my god, a Mac can do that? Well, so can a PC! * Does it wake up instantly? —Duh! * Can your PC laptop automatically switch between Ethernet, dial-up and wireless connections on the fly? —Without a doubt! * Without a restart? Is this a joke? This really proves that Apple has no clue on what their competitors are doing. If they never have used a PC running Windows it makes their tests and objective sayings about the Mac really credible. Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic. 7. It's built for the internet Apple makes a huge point about the easability of configuring an internet connection on a mac. All new Windows versions come with just as easy to use guides for connecting to the internet with modem, lan or anything else. They also brag about such obvious tools of communication like email, favorites and contacts. Yes Apple, this is really new and hot stuff, you are indeed innovative. Or maybe not. The worst part might be that they lie about their under average video-plugin Quicktime. This might be one of the worst programs ever to install. Actually if some students at a university needed an example of a really poorly written program, this would be a perfect opportunity for Quicktime to step into the limelight. 8. Office is Office, and then some Yes, the mac comes with Office and this is why you should make the switch from a pc to a mac: "The transition to a Mac is easy in part because you’ll continue using the same applications you already know" Ask yourself this: Why would I switch when It's the exactly same on the mac? -Beats me. Apple does speak of some mysterious features in this sentence: "And thanks to exclusive features, the Mac versions improve on their Windows counterparts" As you might expect they mention nothing on what these features are. Well they're probably just wonderfully, perfectly and amazingly non-existent! 9. Works effortlessly with PCs Apple thought for a long time that they'd be best off constructing their own method for network-communication. Everyone that has struggled with the glorious AppleTalk knows that they didn't do a great job. Now they have realised that it's better to use an already working technology that someone else created instead of poorly reinventing the wheel. "Networking on a Mac is built on the same technologies used by PCs." They also reveal amazing means of medias you can use on your mac: ..."you can also swap files via data CD, floppies or Zip disks." 10. It's beautiful Apple emphasises that all their products are masterpieces of design. Their problem is that their focus on design hinders them from creating ergonomical and practical machines. If you have ever used the small round iMac mouse you have probably too suffered from aches in arm and hand. "...ergonomic products that are the toast of the design world..." It wasn't I who brought up the word toast into the debate. On the other hand it was I who drew the paralell to machines looking like plain household machines. Who wants a computer that looks like a remnant from the 70's? You could probably achieve the same state of hallucination that you could by inhaling large amounts of heavy drugs. So what have we learned from these 10 points that Apple provides for the potential buyer. We have learned that Apple likes to tell their future customers that the mac is built on technology they probably already are using on their PCs. They also lure the extremely naive buyers with words like internet, word-processing and cd-burning. Please do not be fooled. You have nothing to gain by switching to a Mac. Apple has proved it on their own, with a little help from us. __________________
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04.10.2008, 02:46 AM	#31
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,564	that was a funny read. some a bit asinine but you gotta give extra points for enthusiasm.
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04.10.2008, 09:37 AM	#32
terminal pharmacy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 3,358	i must say macbooks suck, even though i am a mac user... macbooks suck, i dont know anyone who hasnt had problems with them just in the general construction of the case.... i was thhinking about updating my powerbook to a pro but i decide against it. i just maxed out my ram instead. when reason 4 and DP5 no longer work i will upgrade to something but no necessarily a mac.... i dont care as long as it is a solid machine
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04.10.2008, 10:24 AM	#36
█████████ expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,736	haha i'm not switching anything or stop using other os's i'm starting to use one more. i need one of those machines and bullet proof or not i like the macbook pro so i''ll soon hunt down a nice low cost refurbished one. hopefully in a few years i'll be developing software that runs on macs too. and yeah i hate some pompous mac people, fuck them all.
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04.10.2008, 10:27 AM	#38
Tokolosh invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Plaza de Toros Posts: 6,731	The thought of you having to sit up straight in bed because your screen keeps flopping over, cracks me up. Yeah, Apple is definitely to blame for going on a venture with Intel.
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