[atsonicpark]

Yeah, VNV Nation's poppy songs are perfect!

[Glice]

Oh God. VNV Nation are terrible, what on earth are you two thinking about? You'll be singing the praises of Kirlian Camera next...

On the industrial tip, did anyone ever see Leech Woman? They were a great live band who seemed kind of poo on record.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by looking glass spectacle

aside from the collapse of wax trax, the decline of ebm style industrial started when mike scaccia from rigor mortis joined ministry.

I think the blame falls on Al's shoulders. with every record, Ministry got "harder". I suspect that Al went through a mid/late-life crisis at some point in the early 90's. Scaccia was just lucky to get the fuck out of Dallas.

on a related note: Scaccia's (what I'm sure is ex-ex-ex-xxx) girlfriend is responsible for psychically scarring me. never dose in the presence of demonic junkies.

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Wax Trax are the main people responsible for taking "industrial" music from being/meaning an interesting, variable and unpredictable art form held together by kindred spirits with a similar set of ideals for living (and not necessarily a common "sound" per se) and turning it into samey disco music for people in plastic pants and goggles.

I'm not sure wax trax turned anything "into" disco. have you heard With Sympathy?

I just spit on the ground In Contempt.

[Silver_Rocket]

Loveless, i cant complain with that being number 1 since im irish so its nice to an irish band getting the top spot

[pantophobia]

it's been a while since i looked this all over so i decided to post the top 101 and the scores for each, looking back certainly my listening habits have changed some since last posted some year and a half ago


322 - My Bloody Valentine - Loveless : 23,9,19,20,25,10,24,23,21,6,21,22,1,24,25,24,25

277 - Sonic Youth - Washing Machine : 19,12,17,25,21,23,24,24,17,16,23,6,25,25

232 - Slint - Spiderland : 25,25,23,17,22,25,25,12,25,24,9

205 - Shellac - At Action Park : 4,24,19,14,18,17,16,1,19,6,15,22,22,8

198 - Sonic Youth - A Thousand Leaves : 21,20,5,1,11,25,23,18,25,6,7,24,12

188 - Radiohead - OK Computer : 21,8,15,24,1,25,24,24,25,21

181 - Sonic Youth - Goo : 20,24,22,14,16,22,23,5,21,14

155 - Boredoms - Super æ : 25,14,16,10,25,19,22,24

134 - Nirvana - In Utero : 11,15,16,6,24,18,4,22,18

132 - Sonic Youth - Dirty : 25,16,9,13,10,18,8,18,15

121 - Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain : 23, 20,19,17,11,11,20

116 - Polvo - Today's Active Lifestyles : 18,7,18,20,25,5,15,8

109 - Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted : 24,7,6,4,23,14,23,7,1

108 - Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers : 12,18,22,24,24,2,8

99 - Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun : 16,21,24,14,24

91 - Sun City Girls - Torch of the Mystics : 5,23,13,25,25

88 - DJ Shadow - Endtroducing... : 20,11,16,12,5,1,23

88 - Polvo - Exploded Drawing : 5,20,21,22,20

85 - Pixies - Trompe le Monde : 19,9,19,19,19

82 - Nas - Illmatic : 7,13,21,23,18

76 - Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime : 19,16,13,19,7,2

73 - Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die : 16,9,20,22,6

72 - Portishead - Dummy : 16,18,21,4,13

70 - Nirvana - Nevermind : 23,15,14,2,16

66 - Jeff Buckley - Grace : 25,25,16

65 - Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam : 18,2,2,2,17,23,1

65 - Gastr Del Sol - Upgrade and Afterlife : 24,20,21

62 - Sonic Youth - SYR4: Goodbye Twentieth Century : 13,24,25

61 - Talk Talk - Laughing Stock : 24,19,18

61 - The Dead C - Trapdoor Fucking Exit : 23,23,15

59 - Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See A Darkness : 1,13,23,22

59 - PJ Harvey - Rid of Me : 22,17,10,10

57 - Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet : 2,11,20,24

57 - Beck - Odelay : 24,12,13,8

56 - Smashing Pumpkins - Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness : 18,16,22

53 - Cat Power - Moon Pix - 17,21,1,1,9,4

53 - Pavement - Wowee Zowee : 4,21,8,20

53 - At The Drive-In - In/Casino/Out : 24,12,17

53 - Autechre - LP5 : 17,18,18

51 - Stereolab - Emperor Tomato Ketchup : 7,1,23,20

51 - Tom Waits - Bone Machine : 22,10,19

48 - Sonic Youth - Experimental, Jet Set, Trash, And No Star : 10,12,12,14

47 - Sleater-Kinney - The Hot Rock : 25,13,8,1

47 - Modest Mouse - The Lonesome and Crowded West : 1,20,15,11

47 - Boards Of Canada - Music Has The Right To Children : 24,1,22

47 - Nirvana - Incesticide : 22,25

46 - Atari Teenage Riot - The Future of War : 20,23,3

46 - Mogwai - Young Team : 13,23,10

46 - GZA/Genius - Liquid Swords : 11,15,20

45 - Royal Trux - Twin Infinitives : 20,6,19

44 - Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane over the Sea : 24,20

43 - Bardo Pond - Lapsed : 10,12,21

43 - Fugazi - Repeater : 23,9,11

41 - Tindersticks - II : 21,20

40 - Slowdive - Pygmalion : 15,12,13

40 - Jesus Lizard - Goat : 17,13,1,9

40 - Nirvana - Unplugged in New York : 23,17

40 - Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts with Announcements : 10,14,16

40 - Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Mother of all Saints : 19,21

40 - Sigur Rós - Ágætis Byrjun : 14,15,11

39 - Massive Attack - Mezzanine : 5,6,11,17

39 - Fugazi - Red Medicine : 10,15,14

38 - Blur – 13 : 4,13,21

38 - Rodan - Rusty : 19,4,12,3

37 - Boris - Absolutego : 20,17

37 - R.E.M. - Automatic for the People : 6,9,10,12

37 - PJ Harvey - Dry : 22,15

37 - John Fahey - City of Refuge : 25,12

37 - Gate - The Lavender Head : 24,13

37 - The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Now I Got Worry : 25,12

36 - The Melvins - Bullhead : 1,14,20,1

36 - Manic Street Preachers - The Holy Bible : 6,25,5

35 - Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out : 13,22

35 - Helium - The Dirt of Luck : 15,20

35 - Pavement - Brighten the Corners : 21,14

35 - Sebadoh - Bakesale : 20,15

34 - Bardo Pond - Amanita : 21,13

32 - Mudhoney - My Brother The Cow : 16,16

31 - Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Orange : 16,15

31 - Girls Vs Boys - Cruise Yrself : 8,23

30 - Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante : 17,13

30 - Weezer - The Blue Album : 16,14

29 - Guided By Voices - Bee Thousand : 5,24

29 - No-Neck Blues Band - Letters from the Earth : 22,7

29 - Merzbow- Rainbow Electronics : 9,5,15

28 - Björk - Homogenic : 21,7

28 - Polvo - Shapes : 9,19

28 - Depeche Mode - Violator : 15,13

27 - Thurston Moore - Psychic Hearts : 3,24

27 - Sebadoh - III : 19,8

27 - PJ Harvey – Is This Desire? : 14,13

26 - Godspeed You! Black Emperor - F#A# ∞ : 16,10

26 - Jim O'Rourke - Eureka : 9,17

26 - Free Kitten - Nice Ass : 8,18

25 - Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet : 11,5,9

25 - Boris - Amplifier Worship : 8,17

25 - Dr. Dre - The Chronic : 25

25 - LTJ Bukem - Logical Progression : 25

25 - High Rise - Live : 25

25 - The Fall - Levitate : 25

25 - Beastie Boys - Ill Communication : 25,

25 - Lou Reed & John Cale - Songs for Drella : 25

[pantophobia]

i am still grrrr about MBV winning this, but take solace in Radiohead droping to 6th,