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Old 07.21.2006, 02:17 PM   #1
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so does anyone know the story or the inspiration behind the karen songs? just curious. i really am digging karen revisited lately as i just picked up murray st not long ago.

or lets discuss other inspirations of their tunes if anyone knows them
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Old 07.21.2006, 02:20 PM   #2
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I don't think Karen Koltrane/Revisited are about the same person as Tunic (Karen Carpenter). Could be wrong, but they don't sound like it. Koltrane is one of the best SY songs of all time...
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Old 07.21.2006, 02:23 PM   #3
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at the Irving Plaza shows back in '02 the ones around ThnksGiving when The Liars opened and the next night Lightning Bolt and the stage was decorated in Chrismas decor well someone yelled "who's Karen" Lee laughed and said "you'll never know" then went into Karenology. Beauty.
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Old 07.21.2006, 02:25 PM   #4
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Really? I didn't think they played anything off of "Thousand Leaves" or "Washing Machine" anymore. Pretty sweet! Did it sound as ominous at the beginning and as noisy on the first jam and as pretty on the second one as it does on the record? That song still just blows me away.
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Old 07.21.2006, 02:29 PM   #5
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This was back in '02 so it was Karen Revisited that morphed into Karenology which gee I dunno. So it was mainly the song from Murray St. Karen's not involved with the Washing Machine is she?
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Old 07.21.2006, 02:45 PM   #6
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Nah, just didn't think they ever played the songs off those two albums anymore.
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Old 07.24.2006, 10:04 AM   #7
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I'm pretty sure that "Skip Tracer" from a couple tours ago was the last WM song that had any playage..
And "Sunday" from ATL.
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I can't remember where i read that the Karen Koltrane in question might have been a man.
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Old 07.24.2006, 03:06 PM   #9
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Karen Koltrane is one of the best sonic youth songs. I'm a Big fan of Lee's voice and style.
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Old 07.24.2006, 04:33 PM   #10
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as far as I know, Tunic as we know, is about karen carpenter, and karen koltrane and karenology are about someone in Lee's personal life.

Lee's songs always rule all.
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No idea great fucking song though
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Look up Al Shabbray he's like Lee's biggest fan he should know the answer.
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as far as I know, Tunic as we know, is about karen carpenter, and karen koltrane and karenology are about someone in Lee's personal life.

Lee's songs always rule all.

He also mentions a Karen in Notebook off of the Amarillo Ramp record. I always assumed this was Karen Koltrane/Revisited.

The exact line is

"Karen lying on the bed by that sunshaded window in Johnsons city listening for footsteps and not yet through."
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