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Old 04.03.2006, 05:27 PM   #1
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so maybe my new favorite author?
yeah, probaly

first i picked up notes from the underground for a buck and thought it was pretty good but what caught me was in the back of it there was "the grand inquisitor" an exerpt from the brothers karamazov which i loved! so i picked up the brothers karamazov and is/was fantastic. just picked up the idiot and i am reading it now

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Old 04.03.2006, 05:39 PM   #2
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yeah, the idiot is great. also read crime and punishment if you haven't already.
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Old 04.03.2006, 06:01 PM   #3
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Old 04.03.2006, 09:04 PM   #4
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im reading the motherfucking grapes of wrath
its a big metaphor for "desert, pink, sunset, summer, pavement"
i want to go sailing...
ive never read that dude's book but maby i sometime will.....!!
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Old 04.03.2006, 09:12 PM   #5
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the idiot made no sense at all to me until i read the summary after finishing it. but maybe that's just because he inserted all this tangential nonsense into it to make more money.

but i liked it after i understood it.
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Old 04.03.2006, 10:37 PM   #6
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the idiot made no sense at all to me until i read the summary after finishing it. but maybe that's just because he inserted all this tangential nonsense into it to make more money.

but i liked it after i understood it.

Ha.

What is funny is that my Mom just finished it, and she got completely different things out of it than me. I think I might have read a different translation. Reading the book I sort of thought Nastassya Filipovna was sort of a flirt and very fickle, but my Mom translated it that Nastassya was a very promiscuous woman. Maybe he implied that and my mind was too clean to think so, but I knew that Grushenka in Brothers Karamazov was a seductress.

The Idiot is a slow read, but the ending is well worth it.

Crime and Punishment is great. One of the few books that I was assigned to read that I liked. In class we focused on anti-semitism in the book, which I thought was sort of lame because that is only a minor issue in the book.

He is probably the best character writer. He doesn't view either liberals or conservatives with contempt, and he seems to show the positives and negatives of each. As a christian, he doesn't make liberals look like assholes, he draws Miusov for example very favorably. He also shows the ridiculousness of the church in Father Ferapont.

The Brothers Karamazov is so far my favorite, from the books I've read, am reading, and excerpts I have read. It really impresses me that there were so many well developed characters in that novel that all were unique and interesting.
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Old 04.04.2006, 02:58 AM   #7
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I have not read "Crime and Punishment" or "The Brothers Karamozav", but I love Dostveskey, and he's also one of my favorite authors. I've read his novellas "Notes From Underground" and "White Nights" and loved them, and then I read "The Possesed/Demons/Devils", (I find it kind of funny that people can't agree on a translation for that novel).
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Old 04.04.2006, 03:39 AM   #8
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I was told the word that it is translated from- Besy, has no direct english translation, but it means posessed/demons/devils.

I've got Whites Nights and Notes from the Underground somewhere in my house. I think I started both of them, but then procrastinated on getting back to them.
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Old 04.04.2006, 03:52 AM   #9
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fydor is one of my favourite authors. his own experience was put into so many of his books which makes it all the more interesting. i love his work.
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Old 04.04.2006, 10:52 AM   #10
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As a writer he was sort of lucky in all his experiences. He was able to talk about communism, socialism, nihilism, christianity, drunkardness, lust, gambling, execution, epilepsy, and the penal code.
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Old 04.04.2006, 11:46 AM   #11
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I bought Crime and Punishment a few weeks ago but I've got other books to read first as is usually the case with me.
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Old 04.04.2006, 11:56 AM   #12
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There're the TV serial "Idiot" not so long ago in Russia which broadcast on the central telechannels... 11 or 12 series. I must to say that it was awesome... But I never read the books, maybe I'll do it in the future
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Old 04.04.2006, 01:47 PM   #13
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i have crime & punishment, the idiot and the brothers karamazov stuffed away in my closet... i'm too lazy plow through 800+ pages no matter how good the books are...
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I read Notes From Underground and liked it and have Crime and Punishment sitting on the shelf, waiting to be read.

I have generally been more enthused by Mihkel Bulgakov though....I read Notes.. arouind the same time as I first read some Bulgakov and that's the road I went down.
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I've read Crime and Punisment, The Brother's Karamazov and Notes From the Underground. I like them all, but Crime and Punishment was my least favorite.

I really like Dostoevsky's style, the way he developes his characters (which everyone else agrees with) but I feel alot of the points he tries to get across travel beyond me.

Love to read him though.
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I always wanted to see Kurosawa's WWII version of the Idiot. I really loved Seven Samurai, but I could never find a rental place that has The Idiot.

The version of the Brothers Karamazov with William Shatner and Yul Brenner looks really stupid. I still want to see it sometime though.

Edit: look up Dostoevsky on IMDB. There are a ton of shorts and movies based on his books. I wish TCM would have a Dostoevsky day.

I think that Ealing studios could have made a great Dostoevsky adaption with Alec Guiness and Peter Sellers. They could really show the dark comedy side.
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I always wanted to see Kurosawa's WWII version of the Idiot. I really loved Seven Samurai, but I could never find a rental place that has The Idiot.

Become a member of Netflix, they have pretty much everything that's on DVD, if its been put on DVD they have it, and I'm pretty sure I've seen Kurosawa's "The Idiot" available, I haven't seen it but I've rented other Kurosawa films and I recall seeing it listed.
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i've read crime... never got round to punishment even tho i enjoyed crime... i'm a chronic procrastinator.. it was quite a heavy read but well worth it.. anyone dig Celiene?
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i've read crime... never got round to punishment even tho i enjoyed crime... i'm a chronic procrastinator.. it was quite a heavy read but well worth it.. anyone dig Celiene?


Celiene seems a little of topic, but did he write Journey to the End of the Night (I think that's the title)? I though about picking it up once, but went for Vonnegut instead..
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It took me 9 months to finish Crime and Punishment, but i am not a very good reader. But Crime and Punishment is a novel everyone should read (it took me that much time, but if you can do it in less time then good on you)
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